Piven and NPH are locks. Shut it down. end of discussion there. There is no way those two are NOT getting nominated. I'd be willing to bet they are #s 1 and 2 on the popular vote as well.
I personally think its funny that everyone doesn't have about five "locks" in every category. We all know who is getting nominated.
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Piven and NPH are locks. Shut it down. end of discussion there. There is no way those two are NOT getting nominated. I'd be willing to bet they are #s 1 and 2 on the popular vote as well.
I personally think its funny that everyone doesn't have about five "locks" in every category. We all know who is getting nominated.
i also agree that piven and nph are locks but to say we all know and that there are 5 locks in each category is just absurd.
Originally posted by Pats12Fan: I personally think its funny that everyone doesn't have about five "locks" in every category. We all know who is getting nominated.
Really? The wide variety of predictions in the Official Prediction thread would seem to disagree with that idea.
Since you are so sure, why don't you post your predictions. I will just save time and copy yours. Then we can both score 100% on our predictions. LOL.
Love ya, but there is no way there are 5 locked nominees in any category. Not with going back to a popular vote this year. The drama categories are too stacked, and the comedy categories are too wide open.
The ideas of even who is a lock in this thread are being disagreed upon. Let alone the Official Predictions thread.
Some other people may not want to admit it, but I am positive he only got nominated because of the panel system last year. I think there is no way he would have ended up in the top 5 of that popular ballot.
He got in with his tape, definitely. I'm really surprise to hear people call him a lock. He has a better chance at getting in this year due to his win, but he is in no way a sure thing.
But if he does get nominated, he'll repeat. Easily.
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Bazookka Joe, who are you talking about inh your last post? I tried to find the post you quoted, but I dont see it,
Also, I could be talking out of my @ss here, lol, so I wont be putting down my complete predictions LadyHathor lol, but really do we think Close, Sedgwick, Field, Hargitay, and Hunter wont be nominated? Hamm, Cranston, Hall, Sutherland,Byrne? Fey Applegate Dreyfus, MLP, Collette? Piven, NPH, Wilson, Cryer? I mean who are all of the big suprises that are stopping us all from predicting everyone who alwaysgets nominated? Are we really expectingn huge changes across the board?
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Bazookka Joe, who are you talking about inh your last post? I tried to find the post you quoted, but I dont see it,
Bryan Cranston.
oh ok thanks for clearing that up. For some reason I thought you might've meant Piven and I was gonna comment on that, but then I thought I'd better not until I was sure.
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Originally posted by Pats12Fan: Also, I could be talking out of my @ss here, lol, so I wont be putting down my complete predictions LadyHathor lol, but really do we think Close, Sedgwick, Field, Hargitay, and Hunter wont be nominated? Hamm, Cranston, Hall, Sutherland,Byrne? Fey Applegate Dreyfus, MLP, Collette? Piven, NPH, Wilson, Cryer? I mean who are all of the big suprises that are stopping us all from predicting everyone who alwaysgets nominated? Are we really expectingn huge changes across the board?
I am not expecting HUGE changes. But, with a pure popular vote instead of a panel vote, I think there definitely could be some changes. For example, as we were talking about above, does anyone really think Bryan Cranston would have made the top 5 last year on a pure popular vote?
I personally think there is a chance that 2-3 of your Lead Actress Drama list might not get in. Who might instead? January Jones, Elizabeth Moss, Anna Paquin, Jeanne Tripplehorn, Jill Scott, Mary McDonnell. You know, people on the top 10 list last year, or people with a huge amount of buzz this year.
Hamm, Cranston, Hall, Sutherland, Byrne (and the one you forgot) LAURIE. I agree these are likely. However, I wouldn't call any of these a lock, save maybe Hamm. This category is so freaking competitive. Who actually watches Cranston's show?? Really. I am hoping he has a better chance since he won last year. But, on a popular ballot, with him being on such a low rated show, who can be sure? Other contenders? Um, James Spader to start with.
Anyway, just scan through the Predictions thread. I think you'll see quite a few different predictions than the ones you list.
I, of course, am rarely brave enough to even post my own predictions. I may try this year, though.
Bazookka Joe, who are you talking about inh your last post? I tried to find the post you quoted, but I dont see it,
Bryan Cranston.
oh ok thanks for clearing that up. For some reason I thought you might've meant Piven adn I was gonna comment onn that but then I thought I'd beeter not til I was sure.
It's totally fine.
Piven is a lock. Probably one of the only ones we can really call a "lock."
And speaking of Entourage, I'm surprised hardly anyone is predicting Kevin Connolly in Lead Actor. He's made the Top 10 the past two years (right? I'm not making that up am I?) and was nominated for a Golden Globe. I think he has a much much better shot than say... Jim Parsons.
And did anyone else notice that in the major acting categories voters are only allowed to pick 6 people instead of 10 like in the Series and Guest categories? That changes quite a lot, yes/no?
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I like to think that I am fairly certain that the lead actor race is between Byrne, Cranston, Hall, Hamm, Laurie, Spader and Sutherland. If only one of them was ineligible--then I would say that there were six locks for lead actor; alas, there are seven contenders and I say that there is just one lock. (Chiklis and Leary are the longshots.)
Originally posted by Pats12Fan: Also, I could be talking out of my @ss here, lol, so I wont be putting down my complete predictions LadyHathor lol, but really do we think Close, Sedgwick, Field, Hargitay, and Hunter wont be nominated? Hamm, Cranston, Hall, Sutherland,Byrne? Fey Applegate Dreyfus, MLP, Collette? Piven, NPH, Wilson, Cryer? I mean who are all of the big suprises that are stopping us all from predicting everyone who alwaysgets nominated? Are we really expectingn huge changes across the board?
I am not expecting HUGE changes. But, with a pure popular vote instead of a panel vote, I think there definitely could be some changes. For example, as we were talking about above, does anyone really think Bryan Cranston would have made the top 5 last year on a pure popular vote?
I personally think there is a chance that 2-3 of your Lead Actress Drama list might not get in. Who might instead? January Jones, Elizabeth Moss, Anna Paquin, Jeanne Tripplehorn, Jill Scott, Mary McDonnell. You know, people on the top 10 list last year, or people with a huge amount of buzz this year.
Hamm, Cranston, Hall, Sutherland, Byrne (and the one you forgot) LAURIE. I agree these are likely. However, I wouldn't call any of these a lock, save maybe Hamm. This category is so freaking competitive. Who actually watches Cranston's show?? Really. I am hoping he has a better chance since he won last year. But, on a popular ballot, with him being on such a low rated show, who can be sure? Other contenders? Um, James Spader to start with.
Anyway, just scan through the Predictions thread. I think you'll see quite a few different predictions than the ones you list.
I, of course, am rarely brave enough to even post my own predictions. I may try this year, though.
No, youre right I think. I doubt with the popular vote last year Cranston would have made it through but after his win last year I am sure he's fine for this year. Then add in the five we mentioned(and yeah forgot to add Laurie but hes in too) then you have the six nominees. Although the Spader situation is interesting and should be interesting to see if he is nominated or not.
As for actress, I dunno. I really only think one of my five ladies is in slight jeaopardy. Close Sedgwick and Field are in i feel. Mariska has made in through with both popular vote and panel votes right so she should be ok again I would assume. Holly Hunter is popular, but visibility/buzz for her show has gone down a lot so I think she is the only one that could be in jeopardy. So that leaves 2 spots left(one because there are six nominees and the other if Hunter is snubbed). Who could those two be? I'd say Paquin is one for sure and either Tripplehorn or Jones. I personally don't think it'll be anyone else. But thats just me. I dont wanna come off like I am a know-it-all or anything I'll be the first to nadmit I was wrong, but I just dont anticipate many suprises.
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Drama Series: Mad Men, Lost L. Actor: Jon Hamm, Hugh Laurie L. Actress: Sally Field, Glenn Close S. Actor: This is a bit difficult as I don't think there's any locks. The near-locks might be William Shatner and Michael Emerson. S. Actress: This is also a bit hard to guess. The near-lock might be only Candice Bergen.
Comedy Series: 30 Rock, The Office L. Actor: Alec Baldwin, Steve Carrell L. Actress: Tina Fey S. Actor: Jeremy Piven, Neil Patrick Harris S. Actress: I will say no locks. Everybody is quite vulnerable here. Possible near-lock might be Amy Poehler.
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Originally posted by bondzzz: S. Actress: I will say no locks. Everybody is quite vulnerable here. Possible near-lock might be Amy Poehler.
See, I actually prefer Kristen Wiig, though she is nowhere near a lock.
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Originally posted by Cederick: Oh no, I hope you didn't misconstrue what I meant--I'm not trying to insult you--it's just calling Californication a lock for Comedy Series is kinda crazy.
But you also said Desperate Housewives was going to be shut-out for its second season, and that was CRAZY back then, and look at who came out on top...
Heh. Thank you. I'm glad someone remembers.
Yeah, there have been a few things like that. Everyone thought I was bonkers when I kept proclaiming that Lost was going to win Best Drama too. "It's got polar bears!" "They don't like sci-fi." Blah blah
I really do think that a lot of people (no names) in here tend to go with what's hot and flashy, as opposed to really looking at the shows in front of them. It's looking at the shows, and the performances, that give you the shockers.
I was the first (and ONLY on that year's Awards Heaven) to call Katherine Heigl's Emmy nom and win.
That's why if you really look at the performances, ignoring the fact that sexy handsome Jon Hamm takes nearly all his clothes off in one episode of Mad Men (and mind you, that IS hard to do), you see that whacked out cancer victim and meth crime boss Bryan Cranston is really doing MORE, with more of a range.
I also called Alison Janney's five minute speech, when everyone said it was too short to win an Emmy. That speech STILL brings tears to my eyes, and in light of what's happening in Iran right now, is even more poignant.
But thank you for clarifying. I really do look forward to reading your predix. You, I think, get what I'm saying more than most in here. And I appreciate that. (Besides which, you beat me more than anyone.) ;-)
PS--Californication had a superb season this year, as did Entourage, which is why I truly believe they will be at the top.
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Originally posted by LadyHathor25: Love ya, but there is no way there are 5 locked nominees in any category. Not with going back to a popular vote this year. The drama categories are too stacked, and the comedy categories are too wide open.
I think that both in Comedy Actress and in Drama Actor, you have pretty close to five sure locks. In Comedy Actress, there are so few viable choices, that it's easy to predict.
Tina Fey everyone agrees upon. Christina Applegate is turning in the best work of her career. Julia Louis-Dreyfus everyone loves, and is also doing great work. Amy Poehler is everyone's darling this year, and I think she'll get in more for Parks and Rec, where she's the female Steve Carrell, than for her supporting work in SNL, where her equally talented castmate, Kristin Wiig, could go.
Toni Collette HAS to be recognized, she plays like, what? eight characters on that show. And Mary Louise Parker has to be recognized for Weeds, since she about carries the show.
So that's six locks right there. Who else instead? One of the Desperate Housewives? I don't think so. Sarah Silverman? Hardly. Maybe America Ferrara. But I doubt it.
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Originally posted by Bazookka Joe: Piven is a lock. Probably one of the only ones we can really call a "lock."
And speaking of Entourage, I'm surprised hardly anyone is predicting Kevin Connolly in Lead Actor. He's made the Top 10 the past two years (right? I'm not making that up am I?) and was nominated for a Golden Globe. I think he has a much much better shot than say... Jim Parsons.
Connolly was superb on Entourage this year. So was Adrien Grenier. However, are they better/good enough to bump off Steve Carrell? No. Alec Baldwin? No. Tony Shalhoub? No. David Duchovny? No.
I think they made a big mistake in choosing to go as Lead Actors, since they don't really carry their show in the same way those other Lead Actors in a Comedy do. If they chose to go in Supporting, you'd see a whole lotta Entourage guys there.
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Originally posted by Bazookka Joe: And did anyone else notice that in the major acting categories voters are only allowed to pick 6 people instead of 10 like in the Series and Guest categories? That changes quite a lot, yes/no?
I actually wouldn't say Piven is a lock. The combination of the backlash Emmy's recieved last year with his third win tagged with his apparently a-hole-y behavior on Broadway could do him in. That's not to say he isn't a front-runner. But I'm not comfortable placing him in "lock" status.
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Originally posted by MicheBel: ...Tina Fey everyone agrees upon. Christina Applegate is turning in the best work of her career. Julia Louis-Dreyfus everyone loves, and is also doing great work. Amy Poehler is everyone's darling this year, and I think she'll get in more for Parks and Rec, where she's the female Steve Carrell, than for her supporting work in SNL, where her equally talented castmate, Kristin Wiig, could go.
Toni Collette HAS to be recognized, she plays like, what? eight characters on that show. And Mary Louise Parker has to be recognized for Weeds, since she about carries the show.
So that's six locks right there. Who else instead? One of the Desperate Housewives? I don't think so. Sarah Silverman? Hardly. Maybe America Ferrara. But I doubt it.
Amy Poehler is everyone's darling this year? I can't say I've really noticed that. There seemed to be mixed reaction to P&R and Tina Fey still seems to have the hold on the media etc.
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Originally posted by Brilliance inmorbid: I actually wouldn't say Piven is a lock. The combination of the backlash Emmy's recieved last year with his third win tagged with his apparently a-hole-y behavior on Broadway could do him in. That's not to say he isn't a front-runner. But I'm not comfortable placing him in "lock" status.
Um, again, all that SHOULD matter in judging whether he deserves an Emmy nomination this year is how good his performance on Entourage was this year.
And like the three years in which he DESERVEDLY Won, he again deserves to be nominated and for the same reason. He was superb.
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Originally posted by nrlondon76: Amy Poehler is everyone's darling this year? I can't say I've really noticed that. There seemed to be mixed reaction to P&R and Tina Fey still seems to have the hold on the media etc.
People, people, people. Let go of the idea that the "media" has anything whatsoever to do with who gets Emmy nominations. And I suppose I fed into that by calling her "everyone's darling" though I think she is, cause she's just everywhere. SNL, movies, Jimmy Fallon's show, her own show...
But let's just take ALL of that away. ALL OF IT.
The reason, and only reason, I think she's a LOCK for a Best Actress nomination in Comedy is because I've seen her show, Parks and Recreation, and she is, essentially, a female Steve Carrell. If he is a lock, then so is she.
And I don't care what others think of Parks and Rec. I personally don't like it and won't watch it on a regular basis (unless to view Emmy tapes), but SHE is a strong lead. Strong leads get nominations. Ones who have the entire show revolving around them get nominations.
This is why Mary Louise Parker and Julia-Louis Dreyfus continue to get nominations in this category. Not because Felicity Huffman is any less great an actress (she isn't), but she shares her screen with quite a few people.
Also why, frankly, Amy Poehler will get in before America Ferrara. The show is, after all, Ugly Betty. But there are more side characters floating around with their own storylines in UB than in P&R.
IMHO
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