Originally posted by Benito Delicias: How are they anti CBS when Two and Half Men got 5 huge nods last year (plus some others), and Dreyfuss and Harris?
Are there any other CBS comedies worth mentioning? I think they proved to be very pro-CBS, Mother and Christine were not going to get anywhere else than in those two categories, and Men got more than it deserved (Sheen) and they've let category fraud slide two years and will continue to do it (Cryer).
They have become anti-cbs. If they weren't then HIMYM would have easily been in the top ten(and likely the top 5) and Christine would have made it into the top ten. HIMYM was on many critics top ten list for there second season and christine had a really strong second season that moved passed just a showcase for JLD and became a real show.
I do think voters are a bit anti-CBS. And while they certainly should be considering alot of CBS's programming, it does hurt some of there lower rated shows that are actually good.
The Office, 30 Rock, Betty and Entourage are just better shows than Christine and Mother. Simple as that. And even then, Scrubs, Weeds, My Name is Earl are better than those two. Mother was never gonna make it, it was Christine who had a shot. God....
They went for a CBS show in a big way, they're supporting the network and the show, it's the highest rated comedy, it has 4 people (3 actually) worthy of nominations, plus techs, nobody in CBS was gonna beet Two and a Half Men. After that you can't really place Office, Rock, Betty and Enotourage under those two shows. You just can't.
If it were that way, they would be anti Showtime which had no shows in the top5, anti ABC which had 1 show....Are they anti USA because Monk is not nominated? Anti FX because Philadelphia and Reno aren't nominated?
Whenever there's a worthy CBS show *in their minds* not yours or mine, they'll nominated them, just like they've done with Men or Raymond in the past.
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great site rob - the things i wonder are how some people will submit themselves, namely: tracey morgan - maybe this year he will wise up and go supporting, especially since the show has certainly made him more of a supporting player. chloe sevigny and ginnifer goodwin - i think they have much better shots to go into it as supporting as well ally walker, tim dekay, and jane alexander - all supporting? amy pietz - maybe she should NOT follow tichin arnold (who may wise up this year) and go supporting instead natascha mcelhone - supporting? natalie dormer and january jones - they are likely supporting but could possibly pass for leads... jim parsons - again, i don't know which he is but he is probably better to get in as supporting
lastly - eli stone and lipstick jungle: drama or comedy???
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well since the other guy, forgot his name, is the bigger name, Jim Parsons should go supporting. There's also the fact that nobody will ever consider him for a lead spot over the other contenders. The guy who plays Sheldon (where was he from again, Roseanne? I don't remember), is bigger than he, the show is more his than Parsons' and as usual, he'll have a better shot in supporting.
Only certain supporting players are big enough to actually go lead, wether it's the character or the actor. Which is why sometimes I feel Jon Cryer could actually get nominated in lead over Charlie Sheen. He has what it takes, and he really is the better actor, at times I think he doesn't need to cheat.
Jim Parsons definitely needs to go Supporting, but that's because Johnny Galecki is a bigger name from Roseanne. I think if Big Bang stays around a few seasons more than Parsons has a chance. But as a little watched series with no more buzz than say, Pushing Daisies, Parsons isn't going to get in. Especially when there's Lee Pace, Chi McBride, and Zachary Levi to push for.
yeah I agree....this is basically one of those crazy ideas people have on this thread from time to time, not as crazy as the Miley Cyrus thing last year, but crazy anyways. Maybe like the lead actors from How I met Your Mother predictions that always get posted here.
We know he won't get in, but with a weak category, a top10 is not out of the question. I think he's great, and if the show were at least a liiittle bit better, he could slip in. This is one of those ocasions when critics and some little acclaim needs to play a part in order to at least push him into the race...best recent example: Neil Patrick Harris and to some extent...Kevin Dillon.
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Originally posted by Benito Delicias: We know he won't get in, but win a weak category, a top10 is not out of the question.
A top 10 is still possible but he needs all the things that he can have if he's gonna be able to make it. So far, there are nine almost sure bets:
Cryer Dillon Harris Kirk Krasinski McBrayer McBride Piven Wilson
But if he makes it to the top [that's a big IF], that's the farthest he can ever go to.
By the way, thanks for reminding me about the Miley Cyrus last eyar, it gave me agood laugh this day. Hahaha!
FYC EMMY VOTERS!!!
Please consider the following performances:
Kristin Chenoweth (Pushing Daisies) Julia Louis Dreyfus (New Adventures of Old Christine) Steve Carell (The Office) Hugh Laurie (House) Kyra Sedgwick (The Closer) Neil Patrick Harris (How I Met Your Mother)
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By the way, thanks for reminding me about the Miley Cyrus last year, it gave me a good laugh this day. Hahaha!
Haha. I remember that!! That was pretty funny.
And I have a question about the voting process this year. I was reading the voting rules on the Emmy website and it says this: "VOTING PROCEDURE: The top ten first-round vote-getters in the drama and comedy lead, supporting and guest actors (male and female), will be screened solely by a panel of performers with the top five vote-getters emerging from this second round as the nominees." (The same thing was said in the Series part too)
So does this mean that panel will be the only deciding factor in determining nominees, instead of the combined popular vote/panel vote that they did last year? That's what it sounds like to me, but I may be reading this wrong.
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Originally posted by JoeD: So does this mean that panel will be the only deciding factor in determining nominees, instead of the combined popular vote/panel vote that they did last year? That's what it sounds like to me, but I may be reading this wrong.
That's what it sounds to me too, but if that's the case then that would have been better. Also, it prevents us from having six nominees, many in which got nominated because of the popular vote.
FYC EMMY VOTERS!!!
Please consider the following performances:
Kristin Chenoweth (Pushing Daisies) Julia Louis Dreyfus (New Adventures of Old Christine) Steve Carell (The Office) Hugh Laurie (House) Kyra Sedgwick (The Closer) Neil Patrick Harris (How I Met Your Mother)
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Originally posted by Benito Delicias: We know he won't get in, but win a weak category, a top10 is not out of the question.
A top 10 is still possible but he needs all the things that he can have if he's gonna be able to make it. So far, there are nine almost sure bets:
Cryer Dillon Harris Kirk Krasinski McBrayer McBride Piven Wilson
But if he makes it to the top [that's a big IF], that's the farthest he can ever go to.
By the way, thanks for reminding me about the Miley Cyrus last eyar, it gave me agood laugh this day. Hahaha!
I guess you're right...And there's also the fact that somewhere along the line, people will have to realize that Justin Kirk is wishful thinking (sure the military stuff will get in into the top10 but that's about it), and that it'll take an incredibly weak year for McBrayer to actually get into the top5. He's incredibly funny, but if he gets in for his one note (hilarious one note) act, it'll be a crime over much more developed characters and actors like Jon Krasinski for example who's really just a great actor with an underwritten role...
Also, do we think there's still hope that Jon C McGinley gets in? At least into the top10? He's basically the star of the one man show "How I got screwed all these years at the Emmys when me and my character are the most obvious choice ever for a nomination and win"...
Originally posted by Benito Delicias: We know he won't get in, but win a weak category, a top10 is not out of the question.
A top 10 is still possible but he needs all the things that he can have if he's gonna be able to make it. So far, there are nine almost sure bets:
Cryer Dillon Harris Kirk Krasinski McBrayer McBride Piven Wilson
But if he makes it to the top [that's a big IF], that's the farthest he can ever go to.
By the way, thanks for reminding me about the Miley Cyrus last eyar, it gave me agood laugh this day. Hahaha!
I guess you're right...And there's also the fact that somewhere along the line, people will have to realize that Justin Kirk is wishful thinking (sure the military stuff will get in into the top10 but that's about it), and that it'll take an incredibly weak year for McBrayer to actually get into the top5. He's incredibly funny, but if he gets in for his one note (hilarious one note) act, it'll be a crime over much more developed characters and actors like Jon Krasinski for example who's really just a great actor with an underwritten role...
Also, do we think there's still hope that Jon C McGinley gets in? At least into the top10? He's basically the star of the one man show "How I got screwed all these years at the Emmys when me and my character are the most obvious choice ever for a nomination and win"...
If Justin Kirk lost last year for his stellar submission 'Last Tango in Agrestic' while his co-stars get in with weakest types there is no way that he could be nommed this year because he had almost nothing to act. If he would get in this year, it will be only make-up nomination and that wouldn't be fair. Still he should get in and even win last year!
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Rob L was right; Kristen Bell is going Guest Actress in a Drama for Heroes, and it's more than likely her submission tape will be Cautionary Tales. That comes from the source.
How do I know this? I talked with her last night at the after-party for Forgetting Sarah Marshall, which is one of the year's most entertaining - and best - films. She told me she feels she's got more of a chance in Guest rather than Supporting Actress. The fact I was even there at the world premiere (I'm in LA now and leave early tomorrow morning) is a story in itself and will be told in the Oscars forum's FSM thread officiale'.
Cautionary Tales is Bell's best tape out of the three that really allowed her to shine (Four Months Ago and Powerless the others). . She chose wisely, IMO. Bell has a chance; a puncher's chance, but a chance just the same. Bravo for her. Even if I feel she was supporting actress material.
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I know "Scrubs" is falling off the radar a bit, but John C. McGinley, Donald Faison, and Sarah Chalke are all still contenders as far as I'm concerned. The likes of Ethan Suplee and Tony Plana are listed so why not them. Furthermore, I think Elizabeth Banks deserves consideration for her stint this season, particularly for her birth episode.
And I'm going to continue being annoying about Dave Annable. "Brothers and Sisters" is one of the highest rated shows on TV, currently a huge water cooler show, and critically acclaimed at that. Plus there's oodles of publicity about the Justin/Rebecca storyline. All this could get him into the Top Ten and his intervention tape is stellar enough for a nod. Therefore I think he absolutely deserves to be listed along with the other contenders.
And I'm going to continue being annoying about Dave Annable. "Brothers and Sisters" is one of the highest rated shows on TV, currently a huge water cooler show, and critically acclaimed at that. Plus there's oodles of publicity about the Justin/Rebecca storyline. All this could get him into the Top Ten and his intervention tape is stellar enough for a nod. Therefore I think he absolutely deserves to be listed along with the other contenders.
I agree with this 100%. Annable definitely deserves to be listed here.
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