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I recieved my issue today and was very dissapointed in their commmentary. I have to wonder do either of these two people watch I mean really watch television. Some of their picks are right on the money, but sometimes they just don't make sense.

Here are examples of this citing this as a weak year for supporting actresses on television. Okay there characters may not be at their heights but... I can list about 15 supporting actresses who really could make this list. They also list Kaley Cuoco on this list and my reaction....are you kidding me...there is Vanessa Williams, Elizabeth Perkins,Wanda Sykes, Dana Delany, Jenna Fischer,Jaime Pressly, Becki Newton, Ana Ortiz, Melora Hardin, Holland Taylor, (and they listed Chenowith and Pietz.) I know they did not like Ugly Betty this year but those actors still did the best with what they were given and their best is always amazing, and I think you can't count out actors who really bring their a-game to a show. Kaley Cuoco no offense just doesn't make even a top 15 for me.

They cite The Wire and The New Adventures of Old Christine which is great two shows that deserve this.

Their analysis of the Best Actress comedy line-up is good but I think it is because the category is not really terribly complex the only thing that may be tough is narrowing the field from 7 to 5. I agree with their Samantha Who? analysis.

They also cite Boston Legal should move to comedy which sometimes I agree and sometimes I disagree it truly is a tough call for me.

For supporting actor the cited Kevin from The Office even over Rainn Wilson, John K, and Ed Helms are you kidding?

Thoughts here are who they cite and they don't even list five nominees in a category

Best Actress Comedy
no final list mentions
JLD-NAOC
Marcia C-DH
Terri-DH
Eva-DH
Tina Fey-30 Rock

Best Actor Comedy
Alec Baldwin
Kelsey Grammer
William Shatner
James Spader

Supporting Actress Comedy
Kristin Chenowith-PD
Amy Pietz-AIA
Kaley Cuoco-The Big Bang Theory

Supporting Actor Comedy
Tracey Morgan-30 rock
Ricardo Chavira
Brain Baumgautner -The Office (cuz he is in the back of the office)
Ray Wise-The Reaper (oh and they thought carpoolers had potential compared it to the new adventures of old christine)


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Wish list? That's more like a nightmare, with a few exceptions(Amy Pietz, Ray Wise are bold, inspired choices I can agree with, along with Chenowith). Do they even watch tv at EW? Man, if a bunch of those people are nominated, the Emmys will be awful.


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Anything on the drama categories?
 
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Originally posted by movieman6:
I recieved my issue today and was very dissapointed in their commmentary. I have to wonder do either of these two people watch I mean really watch television. Some of their picks are right on the money, but sometimes they just don't make sense.



What did EW say about Samantha Who?


Emmys FYC:
Lead Actress Comedy
Please view the actual tape submissions and reward for quality...

...Not because of buzz
...Not because the nominee has 3 other Emmy noms
...Not 'cause the nominee is a writer so this would be great after the writer's strike
...Not because the nominee starred in a movie this spring.

Please view the actual tape and reward for QUALITY.

 
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sorry I was getting tired before and I forgot Best Comedy

Pushing Daisies
King of the Hill (a huge joke placing this here)
The New Adventures of Old Christine

Best Drama
Lost
The Wire
Friday Night Lights
Big Love

Best Actress Drama
Mary McDonnel-BSG
Connie Britton-FNL
Jean Tripplehorn-Big Love
Lena Headey-Terminator: TSCC

(they sight Close but they say they can't get past the shows outlandish plot lines....but terminator not outlandish at all)

Best Actor in a Drama Series
Clark Peters-The Wire
Bryan Cranston-Breaking Bad
Dennis Leary-Rescue Me
Kyle Chandler-FNL

S Actress Drama Series
Jennifer Carpenter-Dexter
Natalie Zea-Dirty Sexy Money and they compare her Carol Lombard I don't see it
Mia Wasikowa-In Treatment

S Actor in a Drama
Michael Williams-The Wire
John Slattery-Mad Men
Vincent Kartheiser-Mad Men

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I'll have to find the original article to see some of the justifications for those choices, which border on ridiculous.


FYC: Primetime Emmy Awards

Drama Series: Mad Men
Lead Actor in a Comedy Series: Steve Carell, The Office
Lead Actress in a Comedy Series: Tina Fey, 30 Rock
Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series: Vanessa Williams, Ugly Betty
Supporting Actress in a Drama Series: Chandra Wilson, Grey's Anatomy
Guest Actor in a Drama Series: Glynn Turman, In Treatment
Guest Actress in a Drama Series: Sharon Gless, Nip/Tuck
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G'Day,
with the critcs so often roasting the Emmys over their choices I find is so refreshing when some of them prove that they would be much worse.


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Noble,

I couldn't agree more they really are a mess at picking I thought Mike Ausiello's list was also a a little messy uneven this year much more so than usual. Maybe the strike had the forgetting things.


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Oy.

I love EW, but with some of these choices they seem to have completely lost the plot. I will defend them though for several citations:

Mia Wasikowska - She's from "In Treatment," not "The Wire," and I think the young actress gave the show's best supporting performance.

Michael K. Williams and Clarke Peters for "The Wire" - Listing Peters as a lead is bizarre bordering on deranged; there's no justification for that category placement, but it's worthy performance deserving of consideration. Ditto Williams, whose Omar is one of television's indelible characters.

Amy Pietz for "Aliens in America" - I'd place her lead, since this show follows more or less the same format as "Malcolm in the Middle" and "Everybody Hates Chris," which both pushed their matriarchs as lead actresses. But I agree her role straddled the fence and I'm thrilled to see her cited.

Jennifer Carpenter for "Dexter" - I think she plays one of the most convincing law enforcement women on television, and that's saying a lot considering the current glut of female cops on TV.

Mary McDonnell for "Battlestar Galactica" - Her performance in the episode "Faith" alone, where she struggles with her mortality with "Deep Space Nine's" Nana Visitor, merits her inclusion.

King of the Hill - Say what you will about placing it in the comedy lineup instead of leaving it to its animated series ghetto, but anyone who watched the show this season -- especially the great "Death Picks Cotton" episode, which is one of the season's best in any genre -- can tell you what a great year it had. It gets zero buzz, but it outshined "South Park" and "The Simpsons" this year and deserves whatever praise it gets.

Ray Wise for "Reaper" - I prefer scene-stealer Tyler Labine, but nice to see them taking notice of this underrated, well-acted show.

My niceness ends there though. I simply cannot defend the mentions of Kaley Cuoco, Kelsey Grammer, or Brian Baumgartner (like him, but his role is so minuscule, and the work of Krasinski, Wilson, and Helms was so much better this season). Ricardo Chavira? And three of the housewives (excluding Huffman, who I think was better than the other three this season). Even with Ken Tucker back in the fold, he who championed "Buffy" time and again, they couldn't come up with better picks than this?

However, it must be said that considering TV Guide's unusually wonky Dream Ballot, this list overall isn't all that bad, and with a few exceptions, it's much more thoughtful and inclusive than what Emmy is bound to come up with.

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IMO Felicity Huffman wasn't the outstanding one from Desperate Housewives this season. Teri Hatcher and Marcia Cross were better.

Felicity Huffman was simply handed the baitiest material throughout the season:

-How will I survive cancer and deal with my mother whom I don't have a good relationship with?
-Let my children climb the treehouse because I have cancer and its their only safehaven
-I've been cured of cancer
-OMG my family may have perished in the tornado. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
-I didn't have an affair with Rick. Nothing happened!
-OMG I've been accused of child abuse.

Judging from her tape choice last year Huffman will obviously go for for the baitiest episode. But I don't think she's been the standout. It's been more of an issue of being swayed by the emotional material.

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Mia Wasikowska - She's from "In Treatment," not "The Wire," and I think the young actress gave the show's best supporting performance.



I totally agree. Her performance as Sophie is totally amazing. I think she should be nominated for the Emmy of Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series.


For Your Emmy Consideration:
Kyra Sedgwick - Best Actress in a Drama Series
"Damages" - Best Drama Series
Zeljko Ivanek - Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series
Glynn Turman - Guest Actor in a Drama Series
 
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I'd laugh my ass off if the Best Supporting Actress (Drama) category consisted of:

Mia Wasikowska (In Treatment)
Rose Byrne (Damages)
Rachel Griffiths (Brothers and Sisters)

It'd be a case of how many Aussies can we fit in the same category? macauley
 
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Does Rachel have the best shot or does Rose.


Emmys FYC:
Lead Actress Comedy
Please view the actual tape submissions and reward for quality...

...Not because of buzz
...Not because the nominee has 3 other Emmy noms
...Not 'cause the nominee is a writer so this would be great after the writer's strike
...Not because the nominee starred in a movie this spring.

Please view the actual tape and reward for QUALITY.

 
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Does Rachel have the best shot or does Rose.


Likely Griffiths.

These are the Emmys we're talking about.

The best guide is to look at the previous year's nominees, figure out which shows are still on TV, and then renominate them.

The Emmys are seriously comprised of the laziest brand of voters of all time when it comes to most of the categories.

Now, I'll give them credit. Every now and again, they do something great, like nominate Robin Weigart for 'Deadwood.'

And to take further umbrage, if Rose Byrne is nominated, wow, that will really take the cake on laziness. I say laziness, because that pretty much sums up the woman's performance. There was never a time on the show where I thought that Byrne's character was realistically someone who graduated at the top of her class from law school who would be pursued by top New York City law firms.

I've liked Rose Byrne exactly once in her career, and that was in her performance in 'The Dead Girl,' where she played the sister of a missing and possibly dead woman, where her solemnity and deadpan delivery made sense. I bought her as a woman who possibly had swallowed too many Xanax and who was drowning in tragedy.

Little did I know that the sleepiness and fog that she brought to her role was not her reflecting the character, but rather her limited acting skills.

'Damages' showed me just that. In a show where she was supposed to be a sharp, competent young woman, she seemed half asleep, and I just didn't buy it.

To give EW credit, I whole heartedly endorse their suggestion of a nomination for Natalie Zea of 'Dirty Sexy Money.' She truly showed great promise as an actress on this show (I admit I only caught one episode), and besides, how fun would it be to see an alumni of 'Passions' Emmy-nominated?

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Their Drama Series category isn't bad, some of thier other choices aren't bad either, but the rest are awful.


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I love that EW has a hardon for Old Christine. That show deserves so much recognition.

I agree about Byrne. She wasn't great outside the finale. She wasn't terrible, but nothing award worthy.



Emmy FYC:
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, The New Adventures Of Old Christine

Choose QUALITY over buzz.

 
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I love that EW has a hardon for Old Christine. That show deserves so much recognition.


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Emmys FYC:
Lead Actress Comedy
Please view the actual tape submissions and reward for quality...

...Not because of buzz
...Not because the nominee has 3 other Emmy noms
...Not 'cause the nominee is a writer so this would be great after the writer's strike
...Not because the nominee starred in a movie this spring.

Please view the actual tape and reward for QUALITY.

 
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Ok I am sorry but King of the Hill is just not funny at all


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Ok I am sorry but King of the Hill is just not funny at all


I hate that show too.


Emmys FYC:
Lead Actress Comedy
Please view the actual tape submissions and reward for quality...

...Not because of buzz
...Not because the nominee has 3 other Emmy noms
...Not 'cause the nominee is a writer so this would be great after the writer's strike
...Not because the nominee starred in a movie this spring.

Please view the actual tape and reward for QUALITY.

 
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EW's wish list essentially seems like a chance for them to announce their favorite TV shows. I don't think it needs to be taken that seriously.
 
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