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I watched this glorious clip on youtube of Alex dumping Roger in the country club on GL, and this is the definitive, best acting by any actress ever on Daytime!

Mckinsey is the greatest Daytime actress ever. The scene was magnificent. The script could easily disintegrate into histrionics and melodrama in the hands of a lesser actor, yet her performance was an extremely restrained, calibrated, but full of fire.

Anyone know if Mckinsey submitted this for Emmy consideration, or even put herself in the running? How could the voters not recognize this phenomenal acting. Flannery's Big Bear scene and Light's overacting courtroom breakdown on OLTL can't even touch this.

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Do you have the link to the McKinsey clip? I'd love to see it.


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You can search it on youtube. Type GL Alex Roger country club. There are 4 parts. But the chronology is wrong since part 3 is the last. All the emotions are there, and I love how expressive her voice is. No over the top histrionics for McKinsey but pure fireworks, raw emotions that run the gamut and not a single false note. Flannery's been dethroned in my book.
 
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well those scenes were good and she clearly is a very good actress. but on this one i have to go with Judith Light because she took material that was organically overwrought and brought some genuine emotion into it. She is excellent.

but in my humble opinon the best scenes in the history of daytime are the one's that follow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...F&index=0&playnext=1

It was gloriously acted, expertly scripted and both actresses (Slezak and Strasser) gave it their all.

To name the single greatest actress in the history of daytime is tough because in different eras it was different people for different reasons.

but surely McKinsey, Flannery, Light, Slezak, Walton and several others would all contend.

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Based on the courtroom breakdown, not Light at all. Not at all. McKinsey is light years ahead of Light. Flannery too. Actors should learn to keep it simple. Recently Flannery delivered a knockout perf as Stephanie declared to slutty Eric and bimbo Donna that she would roar back to life. The monologue was delivered without much fanfare, but she hit all the right notes.

And definitely not Walton. She overacts. I'm not a fan. No emotion rings true, and all the choices she makes are too over the top.

Best actresses ever: McKinsey for the country club scene, Flannery for the Big Bear scene, Marcy Walker for Eden's descent into madness/Channing Capwell split personality arc, Zenk Pinter for Barbara's burns storyline and Eileen Davidson for her multiple roles on Days. She is a comedic genius and made a cartoonish villainess into someone truly menacing. ED was Days!
 
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There is no best. Everybody simply has their moment to shine. Sure some actors may be better than others (like the ones mentioned above), but then another actress can give a tour de france performance that outshines another.

I may be the only one that hates Susan Flannery big bear antics. I still don't get the hype, a whole bunch of screaming and bellowing and not much else. Flannery has done much better work, yet everyone chooses that scene as her defining moment. As well, I found Eileen Davidson alter egos (not really Kristen per se) were highly overrated. Her defining work IMHO was on Y&R during the breast cancer storyline, or some people take it back to her first abortion. But like I say, acting is very subjective.

Unpopular opinion but McKinsey is indeed exquisite in that scene, however, it's nowhere near the best. Ditto Light. The way I look at it now, is that there are a variety of all-time well-acted scenes in daytime, yet I can't really pinpoint one as the best, and that's because of the extensive history of daytime television.

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And definitely not Walton. She overacts. I'm not a fan. No emotion rings true, and all the choices she makes are too over the top.


I like Walton, but she did overact during her trip to the Caymans. I think Judith Chapman has that effect on people, LoL. Other than that, Jess is sublime IMO.


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And definitely not Walton. She overacts. I'm not a fan. No emotion rings true, and all the choices she makes are too over the top.

Best actresses ever: McKinsey for the country club scene, Flannery for the Big Bear scene, Marcy Walker for Eden's descent into madness/Channing Capwell split personality arc, Zenk Pinter for Barbara's burns storyline and Eileen Davidson for her multiple roles on Days. She is a comedic genius and made a cartoonish villainess into someone truly menacing. ED was Days!


Loved the Flannery monologue and I wholeheartedly agree. This is what I'm talking, how every actress simply has there moment in the limelight. At the end of the day, it truly is hard to rank them.

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Other than the courtroom scenes, did Light do anything else? Not an accusation, but a query.
 
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Who's the best: GL's Mckinsey, OLTL's Light or B&B's Flannery?

I started watching soaps in the mid-1980s. I missed Susan Flannery on Days of Our Lives (before The Bold and the Beautiful), the late Beverlee McKinsey on Another World (before Guiding Light), and Judith Light on One Life to Live.

I'm in no position to answer this question.

What I can say is this: For all of the datime serials' ups and downs, their greatness and the ineptness … when it comes to this tough question … I would prefer to say that I'm simply grateful … for all three!
 
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IMO, Brenda Dickson was a better Jill than Jess Walton. Walton's Jill comes across as a shrew. She is very much in the same vein as Laura Wright's version of GH's Carly. I bought Dickson as Thom Bierdz's mother. Walton, not so much.
 
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Is JW really shrewish or is it the writing? She's been written as the bad guy in the Katherine story.

I vividly remember the Alex/Roger scene. That was amazing! Though if we're picking scenes, I thought the work done by Brad Maule, Kristina Wagner and Jackie Zeman during BJ's death was the best acting I've ever seen on a soap. The three of them weren't just Emmy-worthy, they were Oscar-worthy.
 
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I have to go against the grain here. The two best acted scenes I have ever seen on Daytime were acted by Kathleen Noone when Ellen confronted Mark over his cocaine addiction on AMC in 1988 and the other one would be when Jill played by Jess Walton stormed into Katherine's party and let loose on Katherine's sterling reputation.

The Ellen scene sadly isn't on youtube, but Jess Walton's fabu performance is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...hnw8&feature=related.
 
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IMO, Brenda Dickson was a better Jill than Jess Walton. Walton's Jill comes across as a shrew. She is very much in the same vein as Laura Wright's version of GH's Carly. I bought Dickson as Thom Bierdz's mother. Walton, not so much.


I totally agree. I find both actresses to be both magnaficent but they have far differing acting styles and thus they play different characters. Dickson's Jill and Walton's Jill are totally different women. Dickson, of course, was far more campy and had this sashay of a woman pretending to be better than she actually was, while Walton, on the other hand, plays Jill not as the trailer trash that she is but instead as this high powered regal businesswoman with some flaws.
 
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Slezak stands above Light and Flannery in my view. The work I've seen from McKinsey including some top-notch stuff from AW, it's Beverlee and Erika that set the bar among daytime's ladies.

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Brenda Dickson was entertaining back in the day, but Walton truly transformed the character and gave her layers. From what I've seen Brenda was great during her first stint on Y&R, and I do think she had the better fights with Katherine.


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The Ellen scene sadly isn't on youtube, but Jess Walton's fabu performance is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...hnw8&feature=related.


I hated it! LOL! For me this is a typical example of how bad Walton is. Cooper is mechanical in the clips and Lauralee needs to stay sooooooooo far away from acting.

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When it comes to all three I think McKinsey owned!

Not saying that Judith and Susan were not good, but when comparing those key scenes McKinsey could have gone the way of Judith and Susan (be really dramatic, which is not a bad thing if you are good as these women are), but she chose to do a quieter performance and still gave me chills like the others did.
 
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You all know Flannery is my choice, by far. I do prefer her Stephanie much more when the show premiered....but she still is daytime's BEST actress.

I love Walton, but i always did prefer Dickson's campy Jill to Walton's neurotic Jill.
 
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Had the Prenoms system existed back in 1992, Beverlee McKinsey would not have been denied nomination let alone the Emmy.

That example is what forever tarnished whatever credibility the Daytime Emmys had ever hoped it could have.
 
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