I wonder how long we'll have to wait on GT news. I am verrrrry curious to know what would make her bolt from GL, given that she is the show's biggest public cheerleader.
Nelson....so Rafe can't walk for a week?? Haven't we all been there? LOL
And after watching today's US eppy, the "aftermath" of Rafe and Adam, i can now see that Heather will be having trouble walking, too.
Damn, that Adam must have some stamina. LOL
Actually, i have to say i liked how the writers had a clearly freaked out Adam, call Heather ASAP and have him screw her too, to help Adam get over the fact that he just slept with a guy.
Munhey is doing a bang up job so far...excuse the pun. This guy can act so this may be a great recast. We shall see!
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I would hope that is what Maria is doing and not pulling ppls leg.
And I love how Mimi called out Ellen & P&G on their bull. All of them are cowards (and it pains me to say that about Ellen, b/c I loved what she did for the soaps as Cindy on AMC, but lets get real). I have been given the show a pass for awhile, but seriously your canceled what the fcuk do you have to loose!
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I think Y&R copped out big time. It has to be a CBS thing. There could have been a kiss at least. I don't know why ATWT gets criticized but Y&R does not, when Luke and Noah at least kissed many times and showed a lot of skin.
While I also think Mimi Torchin makes great points about Otalia on GL, I want to know why she or hardly anyone in the soap press didn't say that same thing when Nuke weren't kissing/having sex.
I don't buy the excuses. They didn't show any kissing because they didn't want to show two men kissing. What show would say, "I don't want to show them kissing because they might develop a fanbase, and we might have hit on a couple the viewers might like?" If the spoilers are true, a triangle between Adam, Rafe, and Phillip would be interesting. The two scenes today mirrored each other except for the kissing so the lack of kissing stuck out. Plus, they had Adam showing disgust for sleeping with Rafe so what difference would the kiss have made? He would have pretended to like it while he was doing it. It's unacceptable especially when PASSIONS had a similar blackmail/gay story, and they showed the two men kissing and in bed together.
Mauceri: ultimate hypocrite. She can take money from gays, but she's opposed to homosexuality. Knowing that Sauntiago is close friends with her makes me like her less. I may be judgmental, but that's how I feel. I could never be friends with someone like that.
Ellen Wheeler has been a disappointment since she directed the rape scenes involving Jessica on ATWT. I knew GL was doomed when she took over.
I liked Torchin's GL commentary. Otalia's wedding should be GL's finale. Wheeler has nothing to lose since it's canceled. And how homoerotic is Laurence St. Patrick being hosed (very phallic) down?! Yum!
If this is Bell's way to expand B&B, he's doing it terribly, and there's no excuse for Bell's lack of racial and sexual minorities instead of Diamont's buffoon Bill and Jackie/HOwen slutting up the screen. Bell I think stated in an interview that Alfieri first joined to represent show's Italian popularity. He can't act, Giovanni never integrated into the show. Where are the casting for creative types (photographers, apprentice designers) as black, Asian, Middle Eastern and LGBTQ. Give Felicia a former bisexual lover who's a racial minority. Give Thorne a biracial, LGBTQ love child. 2 minorities in 1.
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A lot of news in that Nelson Ratings, but the best is finding out that GH is not only the last-place ABC show, but third from last among all shows! The only thing that can bring about change to ABC is for the ratings to plummet on the shows that suck. The only problem is that Brian Frons finally decides GH needs fixing, he'll probably reason that viewers aren't getting enough of Sonny and Jason and cut the entire hospital staff and the remainder of the Quartermaines to give the audience what we "want."
"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
Sadly these shows don't care about the fans. I used to love GH. Now I can't be bothered to watch "Sopranos Lite." The show will probably be canceled before they get rid of Sonny, Jason and Carly or remove the mob bullcrap.
And how homoerotic is Laurence St. Patrick being hosed (very phallic) down?! Yum!
And that happened the same week that Rex and Brody got steamy on OLTL. Daytime can be so blatantly homoerotic sometimes it's even more shocking how homophobic they are when push comes to shove.
"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
you know it seemed that pm was more upset about the character than herself as she was in a gay movie before. but either way, she was fired for knowing her catholic character wouldnt be involved in accepting a gay relationship. yes she has played carlotta having pre-marital sex but i have heard of a lot of catholics today that, especially sports athletes, that use the catholic sign and then are knocking up girls and getting them pregnant. i think there are different types of catholicism to these people. so maybe pm doesnt feel that that is wrong but homosexuality is. however, she was hardly on to begin with and isnt an important frontburner character so did she really deserve to lose her job because of knowing her character? and santiago is not gonna make this role better. she was good as carmen on gl, but this is not her style of portrayal. i hope oltl brings her back after this plot goes down because pm is an integral piece to this show. i recall sjb walking out on gh because she wouldnt play carly turning sonny in to the feds, which is the characters lowest point still to this day. a lot of people will act out of character but do they study their character? i dont think they do especially since they get lots of airtime and may not be great actors, but pm hasnt been on much so she has had plenty of time to still remember who her characteris after all this time. steve burton would never get fired if he objected to a gay scene and we know he wouldnt do it, he wont even take his shirt off!
it really shows where daytime is truly going when fans start calling a longtime veteran actress a hypocrite because of something her character isnt supposed to do.
I don't like the argument that Patricia Mauceri was only upset because she didn't agree her character would be accepting. Carlotta is hardly ever seen on the show, so the actress has no basis to decide, based on the character's history, how she would feel about homosexuality, especially in light of everything else that has happened to her children. It's entirely plausible that Carlotta is accepting, and Mauceri could make sense of it in her performance, giving it a subtext of having learned over time to be more tolerant. It's ridiculous for her to demand a rewrite for such a minor storyline when you consider what the other actors have been saddled with.
Look at John Paul Lavoisier and Farah Fath. It's literally painful watching them trying to recite the dialogue in the last few episodes, trying to explain and make sense of the awful Stacy storyline. No one on the planet thinks these characters would behave the way they have, it makes no sense, but none of the actors have refused to play it.
Nancy Lee Grahn had to play those horrid storylines on GH where she faked DID to get away with murder. Beth Chamberlin had to somehow make sense of the plot twist that she had kidnapped Gus and Alan on GL. Everyone involved in AMC's unabortion had to muddle through somehow. It's an actor's right to complain if the writing sucks, but if all daytime actors were allowed to refuse to play storylines because they disagreed with the direction of their characters, especially for a character trait this minor, there wouldn't be any actors left. Professionalism should come first.
"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
Yeah, I totally agree. I respect an actor's opinion on their character, and their voices should be heard, but not always obeyed. In this case, I really don't see why Mauceri should be so sure Carlotta wouldn't be accepting of her gay son. Even if I did, her job isn't to write the scenes and the character, it's to play it. And that's what she should have done.
