I am starting this thread because fans of the show (those left) need a place to talk, vent and support our show.

I have decided to quit reading Nelson's weekly columns. He has decided to boycott AMC and that is his choice but in return, I will do the same to his column.

I have also decided to stay out of certain threads on here because I have no desire to see the same repeated comments all the time. Everyone is entitled to their resepctive opinions and as an AMC fan, I feel the need to voice mine as well.

Do I personally believe the show is rather lackluster at the moment? Most definitely. Is it changed from the way it used to be? Yes, just like every show on daytime. Is it the worst soap on the air? That is completely subjective. In my opinion, no. Should it be axed? No. I don't believe any show deserves to be axed because that just continues the decline of daytime television.

Anyone who thinks a show needs to end because they believe it sucks doesn't care enough about daytime television on a whole. Hope for better, hope for change, hope for stories you can get into, but don't hope for a soap to be taken off the air. I feel for all those fans of Guiding Light who saw their show get bashed for months on end and then to actually see the show removed from their lives.

I for one, do not want to see that happen to AMC and I will not take part in any smear campaign that tries to make it happen. This thread was not created to be rude or to insult anyone but only to vent and put my thoughts out there as I totally feel as though I am the SOLE AMC fan on these boards. If I am, that's fine. Never been one to shy away from being on the outside looking in. But if we have others lurking around, please post. It would be a welcomed surprise!

No offense, but if u were a true AMC fan, u in no way could support it right now. C'mon...Remember the good days that were around just seven years ago? AMC has lost all of its legends...we have David Canary, Michael Knight and Susan Lucci. I guess we can throw in Darnell Williams and Debbi Morgan. Look at the insulting recasts i.e. Jamie Luner over Marcy Walker. Marcy left due to lack of story then they hire a friend of the HW's and give her story like crazy. They write Janet and Trevor out in a tactful way then bring Janet back in the form of an actress that undid a major storyline (though Kate Collins was incredible, it should have been Robin Mattson) and kill off Trevor. They kill off the beloved Edmund then redeem the murderer (Jonathan Lavery) only to waste him in the end. They bring back fan favs Eva La Rue, Sydney Penny and Cady McClain only to completely botch their returns. They undid AMC's legacy, the abortion, only to let that actor fizzle out. They let talent like Julia Barr leave while bumping Jill Larson, James Mitchell and Jennifer Bassey to recurring. They constantly bring on newbies we don't care about. They write out talented actors (Alexa Havins) only to recast them with a mediocre talent and kill 'em off. Don't even get me started on the way Sabine Singh was kicked off for Rebecca Budig to return ("The Real Greenlee Returns"). Ugh.

Gah, there's so much more. And I certainly want this show cancelled. I do because I would say the last great year of AMC was 2002. Ever since then it has been an absolute catastrophe. It breaks my heart. But so much of what AMC what it was has been broken. If it ends now, I can just block out these horrible last 7 years.

As I was told by a major actor currently on the show, "It's simply unrecognizable."

--Morgan

And I will agree to disagree with you.

The items you mentioned are unfortunate yes but I am a true AMC fan, and I do support it. I support it because I grew up with it and like the fans of Guiding Light, they supported their show up until the final airing and I will do the same (if God forbid, it ever came to that).

You mention quite a few things that were wrong but also mention a few things that are just opinions. I happen to like Jamie Luner as Liza Colby. I happen to like the way the show handled certain exits that were of the actor's choice. I also happen to like the current stories on the show at the moment. Like I said earlier, I do find fault but I definitely hope for the better. I do not and will never hope for it to be cancelled.

For me or any true AMC fan (and I only repeat this because you make it seem as though I am not one), calling for the show's cancellation continues to call for the end of daytime. It began with GL and if it continues with AMC, it will only be a matter of time before the next serial drops off the map. I do not want this to happen. Daytime means too much to me, as does All My Children.

We will agree to disagree though.

But why keep shows on when they're turned to absolute sh*t? GL needed to be cancelled after what Ellen did to it. The thing is...they had most of their core cast, unlike AMC. The people running the show don't care about it so why should we? The actors don't care about it or they wouldn't constantly leave so why should we? Hell, even Thorsten Kaye and Alicia Minshew. As annoyed as I have been w/ their constant airtime, one can't say AMC hasn't been good to them. Yet even they refuse to move w/ the show. They know it's crap.

--Morgan

Eh, I wouldn't say either TK or AM are opting not to go because they feel the show is "crap". They have decided not to move because uprooting one's life to a different coast is difficult when you have family or a husband/wife who has work on one coast. Those who are moving with the show are doing so because they have the capabilities to do so and can make it work.

And again, saying...why keep shows on the air when they're turned to absolute **** is completely subjective. It might be a high and popular opinion right now in the soap world but it isn't mine. So, again...we agree to disagree.

First off i'm french so please excuse my english. ohdear617 I agree with everything you say. I visit this site a couple times a day but rarely post. People on here are so negative. You have like a dozen of posters who think they know everything and some claim they watch all shows which I doubt. I also quit reading Nelson's weekly columns. I used to enjoy his column but now it's a joke. I really doubt he watches more than a few soaps. AMC is not the worst show on TV. It's not even the worst soap on TV. Nelson needs to tell fans to write to AMC to get new writers. He's bitter cause OLTL could be cancelled. He's not supporting soaps. His column has become tabloid with the blind items. Sorry but he's an idiot when it comes to soaps. I'm ashamed to be Canadian because of him lol (i'm joking).
Any show can turn around with a new writer. I keep reading on here that the cast is not recongnizable anymore. The cast includes Bobbie Eakes, David Canary, Ricky Paull Goldin, Vincent Irizarry, Michael E. Knight, Jacob Young, Susan Lucci, Alicia Minshew, Debbi Morgan, Darnell Williams, Cameron Mathison, Melissa Claire Egan, Thorsten Kaye (leaving the show) & Beth Ehlers (leaving the show) (all of them are emmy winners or nominees). Now Rebecca is returning. What I find funny on this board is that everyone wants Thorsten and Alicia Minshew to leave yet if you go to the soap central message board they are the 2 most popular stars of the show. People vote for them on all the polls.
AwardsMadness101 i'm not surprised you posted something negative again. ohdear617 made this thread for people who want to support AMC so why are you repeating the same thing you've said hundreds of time before? Marcy Walker is my all time favorite actress. I watched her on Santa Barbara, Guiding Light and AMC. She left. Jamie Luner
is not Liza to me but a new character. I'm really enjoying her. You don't watch the show so you can't comment on her. You mentioned Janet, Trevor, Edmund and Brooke. There's not one show that can keep all these actors under contract at once. Some come and some go. Alexa left ,the show didn't write her out. You say the show is absolute sh*t. I've watched DOOL and OLTL when they were complete sh*t but now people love these shows. Any show can turn around. I'm sure you're a OLTL fan like most on here. And you mentioned AMC has only 5 major actors. well OLTL only has 4 (Kassie DePaiva, Hillary B. Smith, Robin Strasser & Robert S. Woods). And exactly what legends has AMC lost in the last 7 years?
I'm so tired of the OLTL fans on this site. I watch the show and it's not as good as people here say it is. I keep reading that ABC doesn't care for the show and only promotes the other 2 shows. That's false. If it's true give me examples. This show keeps getting praised yet the ratings are almost equal as the other 2 ABC shows. It's up against the lowest rated soap ATWT. AMC is up against the top 3 soaps (DOOL, Y&R & B&B) yet it gets almost the same ratings as OLTL. Why would ABC keep OLTL and cancel AMC? Soaps getting cancelled is not gonna help the other soaps. We should support all soaps. We needs all the fans to write to the shows / head of networks and demand new writers. Almost all the threads on this site is about people talking **** about shows but not doing a thing.
Anyways i'm hoping the show gets new writers and becomes as good as OLTL is (even tho i don't think it's that great) and people on here can shut the hell up (yeah right). Maybe then i could start posting on here lol.

I have to agree with the creator of this thread. Given the current state of daytime I don't want Nelson's boycott to negatively impact AMC or any other show for that matter. If AMC goes OLTL won't be far behind. What incentive does ABC have at that point to have any daytime serials?

Does AMC need improvement? Of course it does. But I've always been a believer in trying to bring improvement rather than giving up on a show, a person, etc.

I started watching AMC in 1979 and watched until 2004. I started watching again when Jesse and Angie came back and have been watching again ever since.

As the writer of the Pine Valley Bullentin writes there is still much to love about AMC. And I will be the first to admit there is much not to like. There are times when it is so plot-driven that it is ludicrous. For example, I thought Monday and Tuesday of this week were great with Tad, Krystal, Jake, Amanda, David, the Hubbards and yes, even Liza and Madison. But then you have the ridiculous situation of Kendall in the secret room and now 3 good people (Kendall, Zach and Aidan) kidnapping Annie and holding her hostage. What garbage!

I think rather than boycotting the show as Nelson suggests, AMC fans should wage a campaign to bring Agnes Nixon back (if she will come back at this point) to restore the show and then hand the reins off to someone who knows what she or he is doing (Claire Labine, etc.) Pratt has had a year and has not. And his comments in the press often show that he does not respect the show or the actors.

I don't watch AMC - but I can understand how you feel. Y&R was completely unwatchable during the LML era and I prayed all the time for it to return to its glory. The bashing of the show and in the media was really hard to take.

Great that you started this thread and hang in there. Hopefully the show will bounce back again soon. :-)

While I agree that AMC is by and large the worst soap on the air and feel that it is unrecognizable, I do NOT want to see it cancelled...and while I do understand Nelson's boycott of the show...I feel it is a tad overdramatic (especially since it is being used to prop up OLTL), I can understand how frustrating this must be to AMC fans.

However, I understand why he feels OLTL should be saved over AMC (if one HAS to go) and I agree 100% with him on that. OLTL is a vastly better show than AMC and has been for years..if we are basing it on quality, then AMC should be the one given the boot (though I am sure the opposite will pose true when the axe does drop at ABC).

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From what I can tell, ALL soaps go through ups and downs- and whenever the show is on a low, it's a popular opinion for the media to pounce on it. Although I'm not an AMC watcher, I appreciate your efforts. Reading and hearing constant bashing about your favorite show definitely stings and hurt. I mean, I'm an ATWT fanatic... just imagine that kind of abuse I've had to endure (and still enduring). Hang in there and fight the good fight, it has to turn around sometime. I mean, DAYS was a piece of crap not too long ago and look at it now.

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Well maybe I'm the most stubborn person in the world, but the thing about those other shows is they still have a lot of their core actors. Granted, DAYS just lost Deidre Hall and Drake Hogestyn (him going is fine by me), Y&R lost Braeden (he'll come back), etc. But AMC...gah I'm sounding like a broken record. Whatever. I want to see AMC turn around, but I don't see how it can happen with so many people gone.

--Morgan

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AMC is truly terrible. That being said, OLTL is MY show and it makes me sick that AMC will outlive it. But OLTL never would outlive AMC. Agnes Nixon could care less about OLTL, Frons could care less about OLTL, and the public could care less about OLTL.
Susan Lucci is THE household name of soap operas. Forever. Even if no one watches AMC, AMC has "Erica" and the network head's preferential treatment. There is no beating that combination.
I am at peace with OLTL's cancellation in some ways because as much as I want to fight, i know it will not matter. AMC is being relocated to the west coast for a reason. And mark my words, AMC will only outlive OLTL by two years at the most- maybe less.
I would rather see OLTL go out with dignity near the top of its game than go out in the condition that AMC is in now.
AMC doesn't need any support. AMC has ABC's support and that is all that matters.
The only soaps showing any respect for their audience's right now with quality (in very different ways) are Days and OLTL. I don't even watch Days but from what I read it DESERVES its ratings. If OLTL had Days ratings, I think ABC would have a hard time cancelling OLTL.

Normally I agree that shows can turn around, but with AMC the problem is not loss of actors, it's the complete destruction of CHARACTERS regardless of who is playing the part.

How can the show be revived after the last 7 or so years of character decimation. For example, are we ever going to forget that Tad is a murderer who told his own son that his child was dead? Come on.

I don't watch AMC so I can't comment on the state of the show. I did watch GL and believe me, seeing my favorite show cancelled is not fun nor is it hearing beforehand how it should be cancelled.
EW did destroy the show but there was still some life in it.

NB and other bloggers go on and on about saving the genre but the cancellation of a soap will not save the genre, on the contrary.