The links on Tamara's submissions are not working so I found the whole episode on the Youtube. It may take some scrolling through scenes, but it is worth it. I'll post my thought on that race later on, but all I have to say is that Tamara has this in the bag!
See I do not agree here about Tamara. I think Tamara is the best actress. I had no emotional connection to her scenes though. She was very good in them but the she was alot better then the writing. Her character was a crazy wackjob. Tamara has a good amount of range. She did not have as good a reel though as Bree Williamson did. Bree's reel was better because it told a story from beginning to end. If you were a judge and have never watched these shows/women, Bree's was the best. It went from high emotion at the funeral, to back to the cottage with Viki and then by the end those subtle emotional scenes as she remembers Nash. It just was great. As a judge I looking for the emotional connection in scenes and Bree nails it here. I think Tamara is the better actress and is second but Bree topped her.
1. Susan Haskell 2. Debbi Morgan 3. Jeanne Cooper 4. Susan Flannery 5. Maura West
Susan Haskell definitely has the best reel; it was a powerhouse tape. I really liked Debbi Morgan's up until they went to the cabin- then it started to feel a little cheesy or something. Jeanne Cooper was solid, but I just feel like she had much better tapes she could have selected. Susan Flannery was okay, but it was nothing spectacular. Maura West's was the same thing that she submits every year.
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I agree about Susan Flannery's submission - it was very boring! She could be more competitive with Stephanie's speech during Donna & Eric's wedding or with the episode where Eric tells her about Phoebe's death and she confronts Rick and Brooke about it.
I'm happy that Flannery is nominated (at least show has an acting nom this year) but she shouldn't be in with that boring tape over KKL's powerful performance during Storm's suicide storyline. It still bugs me that Heather Tom was nominated last year where she wasn't that deserving and not now when she was the best in her category.
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Originally posted by JONNYSBRO: See I do not agree here about Tamara. I think Tamara is the best actress. I had no emotional connection to her scenes though. She was very good in them but the she was alot better then the writing. Her character was a crazy wackjob. Tamara has a good amount of range. She did not have as good a reel though as Bree Williamson did. Bree's reel was better because it told a story from beginning to end. If you were a judge and have never watched these shows/women, Bree's was the best. It went from high emotion at the funeral, to back to the cottage with Viki and then by the end those subtle emotional scenes as she remembers Nash. It just was great. As a judge I looking for the emotional connection in scenes and Bree nails it here. I think Tamara is the better actress and is second but Bree topped her.
I do agree. It's where I always have a hard time deciding who should be the winner. Is it based on who is the best actor out of the group or is it based on who's reel told a story and as a judge you feel for this character, after never watching the show. I always go by who drew me in from the beginning to the end. I feel sorry for Bree character the most, however, I can't deny Tamara did some great acting in her tape, it's just the material isn't as strong as Bree's. It's tough.
I would vote for Tamara Braun because she was more emotionally consistent than Wiliamson. Since the Academy seems unwilling to give an Emmy to anyone from OLTL, I'd say Tamara Braun has the edge because she has the GH, DOOL, and AMC voters on her side. I'm also rooting against Williamson because I think she's one of the most inconsistent actresses on daytime, and she was responsible for some of the worst acting on OLTL in 2007 and 2008. In her defense, she does her best work opposite Lawson when no fireworks are required. Brier should have had her slot, and I hold grudges which is why I would be an awful judge.
I found Brier to be very over the top. She is okay but appaently her kidnapping reel did not go over well with the judges. Also Kathy did not have any big storylines this year. What she sent was the Tommy kidnapping and the reel was very over the top. Crystal the major thing is you are judging a reel not a whole year of work. While I thought Tamara was excellent in her reel, the material was cheesy/hokey/stupid and I did not feel any emotional connection. Whereas Bree told the complete story. Crystal we are not judging Bree on her work in 2007 or years back. We are judging her based on one episode. Us soap fans would be terrible judges because we would have to be subjective. It's like Flannery/Cooper/West/Morgan all great actresses but they do not come within 600 feet of Susan Haskell's reel.
OMG Bree has come such a long way from her early days on OLTL with her aboot and terrible canadian accent. She was awful when she started and so green. She has been on OLTL almost seven years and this was her best year by far. Nash's funeral episode still is her best work even more then the episodes with the baby stuff two weeks ago. In closing I think Tamara is the better actress but her reel lacked an emotional connection for me.
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Brier's over the top but Williamson wasn't in that tape? I thought Williamson should have submitted the episode after Nash's death when she woke up at Llanfair and smacked Natalie. If she had submitted that tape, then this would have been an earned nomination. With the funeral episode, she was cringeworthy during the crying and yelling scenes and just alright during the quiet scenes at the cottage. It's an undeserved nomination just like all the other ladies in this category. I just can't believe how underwhelming the reels are for supporting actress. It makes me think that it was just dumb luck that 3 of the best actresses from last year were rightfully nominated in lead.
In terms of who's gonna win, probably Pinson or Braun because they've been on more shows and have more friends to vote for them. If the reels had anything to do with it, none of them would have been nominated in the 1st place!
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SeeOLTL fan but that scene where she slapped Natalie IMO would not have gotten her the nod. It was like 3 minute scene and not much else. The funeral episode was the best. As I said before she was very effective toward the end with her subtle moments. The nash montage it told the whole complete storyline. You could watch this reel and if you never watched OLTL before knew what was going on. Melissa Claire Egan had a good year, she was good in her reel.
You think Pinson going to win LMAO. Pinson's reel IMO was just okay. Nothing about it said emmy. Not a bad job but any good actress could have done those scenes. It was okay and kind of dull. Braun's was good but the material sucked. Mark my words Bree Williamson will be named the winner. She and Susan will both win.
After watching the reels, it looks like they had nothing to do with who got nominated and probably won't have anything to do with who wins. I don't think Pinson would be a deserving winner but she's been on all three networks and probably has the most friends in the industry. It shouldn't be about who's most popular but obviously it is. And quite honestly, no matter who wins it will be undeserving. Braun's performance is probably the best here but that's not saying much considering what she's up against.
The only category I'm even a little excited about is lead actress because three of the actresses actually had the material to justify their nominations. But they'll probably lose to Flannery or West, who are talented but shouldn't have even been nominated over actresses like Laura Wright and Katherine Kelly Lang who had better storylines last year.
Having seen the supporting categories as well as lead actress, it's obvious that bloc voting and name recognition were responsible for most of the nominees. I highly doubt Susan Haskell got in because of her reel since OLTL actors are routinely snubbed for first rate work. She got in because she's Thorsten Kaye's live-in mother of his children. If another actress had given the same quality of performance that Cooper or Flannery turned in, they would have been left off the ballot.
So many thought the nominees were pretty crappy, while most thought they were better than expected. Does anyone think now that we know who submitted what that those that got noms got noms based on the tapes. Crystal, I have to disagree about Susan Haskell. I do not think she got a nom cause of her relationship with Kaye, cause her tape is fabulous, and the emmy' s are about fabulous work. Also, viewing the tapes so far, I truly believe after last year's debacle of panelists not viewing that they were viewed this year. SO many wonderful performances in all the categories.
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Crystal if you have not forgotten Susan is an emmy winner herself. She has alot of name recognition in the soap world as Marty's gang rape was one of the most known stories in OLTL history. It had nothing to do with her being Thorsten Kaye's wife. Her reel was what got her in. Her reels blew everything single female in that category out of the water. It's almost like a joke if she loses. Haskell reel blew every reel of any actor out of the water. It was riveting from beginning to end.
OLTLfan you call Bree over the top but Laura Wright UGH. She has been playing the same role for 13 years as Cassie Layne. It's no different in her portrayel as Carly. Talk about the most overated actress in daytime. She plays the same sanctimonious, in your face, big ole hypocrite she has played for years. GH majorly screwed up by not having Sarah Brown reprise her role. Kelly Lang has never WOWed me, she is an okay actress.
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I'm very much looking forward to watching these episodes and finally being able to see for myself the quality of work that got nominated, though I'm not exactly hopeful.
Thanks AddieLove for putting these together and thanks to everyone else who has submitting reel information.
"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
Originally posted by JONNYSBRO: Crystal if you have not forgotten Susan is an emmy winner herself. She has alot of name recognition in the soap world as Marty's gang rape was one of the most known stories in OLTL history. It had nothing to do with her being Thorsten Kaye's wife. Her reel was what got her in. Her reels blew everything single female in that category out of the water. It's almost like a joke if she loses. Haskell reel blew every reel of any actor out of the water. It was riveting from beginning to end.
I've forgotten nothing although I don't think she has that much name recognition considering her storyline was over 15 years ago. MY theory is that Haskell's relationship with Kaye helped her to land her nomination. The fact that she deserves to be nominated because on her submission is immaterial. If I felt that people watched the tapes, I wouldn't have that theory, but having seen about twenty submissions, I'm convinced that other factors were at work. If Haskell got in solely based on her submission, how do we explain Flannery, West, and Cooper? Even their most staunch defenders would have a difficult time making a case for Flannery and West.
OMG Bree has come such a long way from her early days on OLTL with her aboot and terrible canadian accent. She was awful when she started and so green. She has been on OLTL almost seven years and this was her best year by far. Nash's funeral episode still is her best work even more then the episodes with the baby stuff two weeks ago. In closing I think Tamara is the better actress but her reel lacked an emotional connection for me.
LoL, Canadian's don't have an accent. And we don't saw aboot. Haha!
I haven't watch the Lead Actor reels yet, but I think it is the opposite. I think Haskell helped Kaye get a nomination. Haskell had the buzz, while Kaye didn't.
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Originally posted by east/west: I haven't watch the Lead Actor reels yet, but I think it is the opposite. I think Haskell helped Kaye get a nomination. Haskell had the buzz, while Kaye didn't.
But if AMC bloc voted, it's Haskell's connection to Kaye that helped her. Any buzz for an OLTL actor usually ends up failing to aid the performer in getting a nomination. Hickland and Brier are prime examples of that. Alderson was talked about all year, and she didn't get a nomination. It's entirely possible that Haskell got in on her own, but if I don't believe the nominees were based solely on tape, there have to be other reasons.
Haskell deserved her nomination. I'm sure bloc voting goes on, esp. after last years emmy nominations. But not only do I think her reel is deserving of a nomination but the win.
The lead actress category is the best one. The supporting for actor/actress is very underwhelming, and nobody really stands out as amazing.
