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_________________________________ DRAMA SERIES
All My Children As the World Turns The Bold and the Beautiful Days of Our Lives General Hospital General Hospital: Night Shift Guiding Light One Light to Live Passions Port Charles Spyder Games The Young and the Restless
_________________________________ LEAD ACTOR
AMC
David Canary (Adam Chandler/Stuart Chandler) Vincent Irizarry (David Hayward) Thorsten Kaye (Zach Slater) Michael E. Knight (Tad Martin) Cameron Mathison (Ryan Lavery) Jack Scalia (Chris Stamp) Walt Willey (Jackson Montgomery) Darnell Williams (Jesse Hubbard)
ATWT
Hunt Block (Craig Montgomery) Scott Bryce (Craig Montgomery) Tom Eplin (Jake McKinnon) Jon Hensley (Holden Snyder) Roger Howarth (Paul Ryan) Grayson McCouch (Dusty Donovan) Michael Park (Jack Snyder)
B&B
Joseph Mascolo (Massimo Marone) John McCook (Eric Forrester) Ronn Moss (Ridge Forrester) Jack Wagner (Nick Marone)
DAYS
Matthew Ashford (Jack Deveraux) Drake Hogestyn (John Black) Stephen Nichols (Patch Johnson) Thaao Penghlis (Tony DiMera/Andre DiMera) Peter Reckell (Bo Brady) James Scott (EJ DiMera) Josh Taylor (Roman Brady)
GH
Maurice Benard (Sonny Corinthos) Steve Burton (Jason Morgan) Anthony Geary (Luke Spencer) Stephen Nichols (Stefan Cassadine) Ingo Rademacher (Jasper Jacks)
GH:NS
Tristan Rogers (Robert Scorpio) Jason Thompson (Patrick Drake)
GL
Grant Aleksander (Philip Spaulding) Ricky Paull Goldin (Gus Aitoro) Robert Newman (Joshua Lewis) Ron Raines (Alan Spaulding)
OLTL
Kamar De Los Reyes (Antonio Vega) James DePaiva (Max Holden) Michael Easton (John McBain) Roger Howarth (Todd Manning) Trevor St. John (Todd Manning/Walker Flynn) Jerry verDorn (Clint Buchanan) Robert S. Woods (Bo Buchanan)
PASS
Galen Gering (Luis Lopez-Fitzgerald) Eric Martsolf (Ethan Winthrop) Ben Masters (Julian Crane) John Reilly (Alistair Crane)
PC
Michael Easton (Caleb Morley/Michael Morley) Brian Gaskill (Rafe Kovich) Thorsten Kaye (Ian Thornhart) Kin Shriner (Scott Baldwin)
Y&R
Peter Bergman (Jack Abbott) Eric Braeden (Victor Newman) Doug Davidson (Paul Williams) Christian LeBlanc (Michael Baldwin) Joshua Morrow (Nick Newman)
Sharon Case (Sharon Newman) Jeanne Cooper (Katherine Chancellor) Eileen Davidson (Ashley Abbott) Victoria Rowell (Drusilla Winters) Michelle Stafford (Phyllis Summers) Melody Thomas Scott (Nikki Newman) Jess Walton (Jill Foster)
_________________________________ SUPPORTING ACTOR
AMC
Jeff Branson (Jonathan Lavery) John Callahan (Edmund Grey) Jeffrey Carlson (Zarf/Zoe) Mark Consuelos (Mateo Santos) William deVry (Michael Cambias) Josh Duhamel (Leo DuPres) JR Martinez (Brot Monroe) Billy Miller (Richie Novak) Aiden Turner (Aidan Devane) Jacob Young (JR Chandler)
ATWT
Mark Collier (Mike Kasnoff) Trent Dawson (Henry Coleman) Benjamin Hendrickson (Hal Munson) Scott Holmes (Tom Hughes) Scott Holroyd (Paul Ryan) John James (Rick Decker) Paul Leyden (Simon Frasier) Jon Lindstrom (Craig Montgomery) Eric William Morris (Matt O'Connor) Peter Parros (Ben Harris) Austin Peck (Brad Snyder) Lamman Rucker (T. Marshall Travers)
B&B
William deVry (Storm Logan) Patrick Duffy (Stephen Logan) Dax Griffin (Shane McGrath) Winsor Harmon (Thorne Forrester) Sean Kanan (Deacon Sharpe) Lorenzo Lamas (Hector Ramirez) Kyle Lowder (Rick Forrester)
DAYS
John Aniston (Victor Kiriakis) Kyle Brandt (Philip Kiriakis) Shawn Christian (Daniel Jonas) Bryan Dattilo (Lucas Roberts) Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez) Jay Kenneth Johnson (Philip Kiriakis) Joseph Mascolo (Stephano DiMera) Wayne Northrup (Alex North) James Reynolds (Abe Carver) Billy Warlock (Frankie Brady)
GH
Bradford Anderson (Damian Spinelli) Corbin Bernsen (John Durant) Tyler Christopher (Nikolas Cassadine) Stuart Damon (Alan Quartermaine) Rick Hearst (Ric Lansing) John Ingle (Edward Quartermaine) Ted King (Luis Alcazar/Lorenzo Alcazar) A Martinez (Roy DiLucca) Sebastian Roche (Jerry Jacks) Jason Thompson (Patrick Drake) Greg Vaughan (Lucky Spencer) Billy Warlock (A.J. Quartermaine) Bruce Weitz (Anthony Zacchara)
GH:NS
Chad Allen (Eric Whitlow) Adam Grimes (Kyle Julian) Ethan Rains (Leo Julian) Antonio Sabato Jr. (Jagger Cates) Graham Shiels (Cody Paul)
GL
Scott Bailey (Sandy Foster) Murray Bartlett (Cyrus Foley) Robert Bogue (AC Mallet) Jeff Branson (Shayne Lewis) Jordan Clarke (Billy Lewis) Bradley Cole (Jeffrey O'Neill/Richard Winslow) Daniel Cosgrove (Bill Lewis) Justin Deas (Buzz Cooper) David Andrew Macdonald (Edmund Winslow) Kane Manera (Grady Foley) Paul Anthony Stewart (Danny Santos)
OLTL
Roscoe Born (Mitch Laurence) John Brotherton (Jared Banks) Phil Carey (Asa Buchanan) Brett Claywell (Kyle Lewis) Scott Evans (Oliver Fish) Dan Gauthier (Kevin Buchanan) Brian Kerwin (Charlie Banks) John-Paul Lavoisier (Rex Balsom) Mark Lawson (Brody Lovett) Nathaniel Marston (Al Holden) Paul Satterfield (Spencer Truman) Jason-Shane Scott (Will Rappaport) Timothy Stickney (RJ Gannon) Tuc Watkins (David Vickers)
PASS
David Bailey (Alistair Crane) Justin Hartley (Nicholas Crane) James Hyde (Sam Bennett) Phillip Jeanmarie (Vincent Clarkson) Christopher Maleki (Spike Lester) Donn Swaby (Chad Harris) Rodney Van Johnson (TC Russell)
PC
Ian Buchanan (Joshua Temple) Kiko Ellsworth (Jamal Woods) Jon Lindstrom (Kevin Collins) Nolan North (Chris Ramsey)
Y&R
Linden Ashby (Cameron Kirsten) Roscoe Born (Tom Fisher) Keith Hamilton Cobb (Damon Porter) Jerry Douglas (John Abbott) Daniel Goddard (Cane Ashby) Thad Luckinbill (JT Hellstrom) Billy Miller (Billy Abbott) Greg Rikaart (Kevin Fisher) Ted Shackelford (Jeffrey Bardwell/William Bardwell) Kristoff St. John (Neil Winters) Eric Steinberg (Ji Min Kim) Greg Vaughan (Diego Guttierez)
Tamara Braun (Reese Williams) Kate Collins (Janet Dillon) Marj Dusay (Vanessa Bennett) Melissa Claire Egan (Annie McDermott) Eva La Rue (Maria Santos) Cady McClain (Dixie Cooney) Sydney Penny (Julia Santos) Kelly Ripa (Hayley Vaughn) Sabine Singh (Greenlee Smythe)
ATWT
Sarah Brown (Julia Larrabee) Terri Colombino (Katie Peretti) Ellen Dolan (Margo Hughes) Mary Beth Evans (Sierra Esteban) Jennifer Ferrin (Jennifer Munson) Elizabeth Hubbard (Lucinda Walsh) Lesli Kay (Molly Conlan) Kelley Menighan Hensley (Emily Stewart) Julie Pinson (Janet Ciccone) Tamara Tunie (Jessica Griffin) Marie Wilson (Meg Snyder)
B&B
Kimberlin Brown (Sheila Carter) Darlene Conley (Sally Spectra) Lesley-Anne Down (Jackie Marone) Bobbie Eakes (Macy Alexander) Jennifer Gareis (Donna Logan) Schae Harrison (Darla Einstein) Ashley Jones (Bridget Forrester) Lesli Kay (Felicia Forrester) Alley Mills (Pamela Douglas) Heather Tom (Katie Logan)
Kimberlin Brown (Rachel Locke) Kelly Monaco (Livvie Locke/Tess) Rebecca Staab (Elizabeth Barrington) Shannon Sturges (Kate Reynolds) Marie Wilson (Karen Wexler)
Y&R
Tracey E. Bregman (Lauren Fenmore) Kimberlin Brown (Sheila Carter) Tricia Cast (Nina Webster) Judith Chapman (Gloria Fisher) Adrienne Frantz (Amber Moore) Sabryn Genet (Tricia Dennison) Stacy Haiduk (Mary Jane Benson/Patty Williams) Amelia Heinle (Victoria Newman) Elizabeth Hendrickson (Chloe Mitchell) Beth Maitland (Traci Abbott) Heather Tom (Victoria Newman) Joan Van Ark (Gloria Fisher) Susan Walters (Diane Jenkins)
_________________________________ YOUNGER ACTOR
AMC
Micah Alberti (Jamie Martin) Justin Bruening (Jamie Martin) Michael B. Jordan (Reggie Montgomery) Daniel Kennedy (Petey Cortlandt) Jesse McCartney (JR Chandler) Cornelius Smith Jr. (Frankie Hubbard) Bobby Steggert (Sam Grey) Brent Weber (Sean Montgomery)
ATWT
Brett Groneman (Will Munson) Van Hansis (Luke Snyder) Mick Hazen (Parker Snyder) Agim Kaba (Aaron Snyder) Billy Magnussen (Casey Hughes) Daniel Manche (JJ Snyder) Zach Roerig (Casey Hughes) Jake Silbermann (Noah Mayer) Jesse Soffer (Will Munson) Paul Taylor (Isaac Jenkins) Jake Weary (Luke Snyder)
Blake Berris (Nick Fallon) Darin Brooks (Max Brady) Jason Cook (Shawn-Douglas Brady) Casey Jon Deidrick (Chad Peterson) Matthew Florida (Ford DEcker) Mark Hapka (Nathan Horton) Kyle Lowder (Brady Black)
GH
Chad Brannon (Zander Smith) Dylan Cash (Michael Corinthos) Scott Clifton (Dillon Quartermaine) Josh Duhon (Logan Hayes) Drew Garrett (Michael Corinthos) Ignacio Serriccio (Diego Alcazar) Jacob Young (Lucky Spencer)
GL
Matthew Bomer (Ben Reade) EJ Bonilla (Rafe Rivera) Zack Conroy (James Spaulding) John Driscoll (Henry Cooper Bradshaw) Justin Klosky (Joey Lupo) Tom Pelphrey (Jonathan Randall) Lawrence Saint-Victor (Remy Boudreau) Jordi Vilasuso (Tony Santos) Marty West (Shayne Lewis)
OLTL
Edward Alderson (Matthew Buchanan) Brandon Buddy (Cole Thornhart) Scott Clifton (Schuyler Joplin) Bruce Michael Hall (Joey Buchanan) Austin Williams (Shane Morasco) Jason Tam (Markko Rivera) Matthew Twining (River Carpenter) Jay Wilkinson (Riley Coulson)
PASS
Adrian Bellani (Miguel Lopez-Fitzgerald) Josh Ryan Evans (Timmy) Dylan Fergus (Noah Bennett) Bruce Michael Hall (Reese Durkee) Jack Krimanich (John Hastings) Jesse Metcalfe (Miguel Lopez-Fitzgerald) Blair Redford (Miguel Lopez-Fitzgerald) James Stevenson (Jared Casey)
PC
Brian Presley (Jack Ramsey)
Y&R
Hunter Allan (Noah Newman) Michael Graziadei (Daniel Romalotti) Bryant Jones (Nathan Hastings Jr.) David Lago (Raul Guttierez) Bryton McClure (Devon Hamilton) Kevin Schmidt (Noah Newman) David Tom (Billy Abbott)
_________________________________ YOUNGER ACTRESS
AMC
Yaya DaCosta (Cassandra Foster) Kelli Giddish (Di Henry) Alexa Havins (Babe Carey) Elizabeth Hendrickson (Maggie Stone/Frankie Stone) Shannon Kane (Natalia Fowler) Brianne Moncreif (Colby Chandler) Leven Rambin (Lily Montgomery/Ava Benton) Eden Riegel (Bianca Montgomery) Chrishell Stause (Amanda Dillon)
Jean Passanante, Elizabeth Page, Agnes Nixon (2000-2001) Richard Culliton (Sept. 2001-Dec. 2002) Megan McTavish (July 2003-May 2007) James Harmon Brown, Barbara Essensten (July 2007-Aug. 2008) Charles Pratt Jr. (Aug. 2008-Present)
ATWT
Hogan Sheffer, Carolyn Culliton (2000-2001) Hogan Sheffer, Jean Passanante (2001-2005) Jean Passanante (2005-Present)
B&B
Bradley Bell (2000-2008) Bradley Bell, Kay Alden, Michael Minnis (2008-Present)
DAYS
Tom Langan (2000-2002) Peter Brash, Paula Cwikly (2002-2003) James E. Reilly (2003-2006) Hogan Sheffer, Meg Kelly (2006-2008) Dena Higley, Christopher Whitesell (2008-Present)
GH
Robert Guza Jr. (2000) Megan McTavish (2001-2002) Robert Guza Jr., Charles Pratt Jr. (2002-2006) Robert Guza Jr. (2006-Present)
GH:NS
Robert Guza Jr. (Season 1: 2007) Sri Rao (Season 2: 2008)
GL
Claire Labine (2000-2001) Lloyd Gold (2001-2002) Millee Taggert, Carolyn Culliton (2002-2003) Ellen Weston (2003-2004) David Kreizman (2004-2008) Christopher Dunn, Lloyd Gold, Jill Lorie Hurst, David Kreizman (2008-2009)
OLTL
Megan McTavish (2000-2001) Lorraine Broderick, Christopher Whitesell (2001-2003) Josh Griffith, Michael Malone (2003-2004) Dena Higley (2004-2007) Ron Carlivati (2007-Present)
PASS
James E. Reilly (2000-2008)
PC
Barbara Esensten, James Harmon Brown (2000-2003)
SG
Valerie Ahern, Christian McLaughlin (2001)
Y&R
Kay Alden, Trent Jones (2000-2002) Kay Alden, Trent Jones, John F. Smith (2002-2004) Kay Alden, John F. Smith (2004-2006) Lynn Marie Latham (2006-2007) Maria Arena Bell (2007-2008) Maria Arena Bell, Hogan Sheffer, Scott Hamner (2008-Present)
_________________________________ CASTING FOR A DRAMA SERIES
AMC -- Judy Wilson ATWT -- Mary Clay Boland B&B -- Christy Dooley DAYS -- Fran Bascom, Marnie Saitta GH -- Mark Teschner GH:NS -- Mark Teschner, Gwen Hiller GL -- Glenn Daniels, Rob Decina OLTL -- Julie Madison, Victoria Visgilio PASS -- Jacklynn Briskey PC -- Mark Teschner SG -- Pamela Azmi-Andrew Y&R -- Marnie Saitta
_________________________________ TALK/SERVICE SHOW OF THE DECADE
Ask This Old House Barefoot Contessa Better Homes and Gardens The Bonnie Hunt Show The Christopher Lowell Show Clean House The Doctors Donny & Marie Dr. Phil The Ellen DeGeneres Show Essence of Emeril Everyday Italian Giada at Home Gourmet's Diary of a Foodie Great Hotels Grill It! with Bobby Flay Lidia's Italy Live with Regis & Kelly Martha Martha Stewart Living The Montel Williams Show Nigella Express The Oprah Winfrey Show Paula's Home Cooking Peter Perfect A Place of Our Own: Los Ninos en Su Casa Rachael Ray The Rosie O'Donnell Show Sell This House Simply Ming SoapTalk The Suze Orman Show 30 Minute Meals This Old House The Tyra Banks Show The View The Wayne Brady Show Witch Crafts Wolfgang Puck
_________________________________ TALK/SERVICE SHOW HOST OF THE DECADE
Tyra Banks -- "The Tyra Banks Show" Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Star Jones, Lisa Ling, Rosie O'Donnell, Sherri Shepherd, Meredith Vieira, Barbara Walters -- "The View" Wayne Brady -- "The Wayne Brady Show" Gary Burghoff -- "Pets: Part of the Family" Michael Chiarello -- "Easy Entertaining with Michael Chiarello" Julia Child, Jazques Pepin -- "Julia & Jacques Cooking at Home" Giada De Laurentiis -- "Everyday Italian" Paula Deen -- "Paula's Home Cooking" Ellen DeGeneres -- "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" Todd English -- "Food Trip with Todd English" Cathie Filian, Steven Piacenza -- "Creative Juice" Bobby Flay -- "Boy Meets Grill with Bobby Flay" Bobby Flay -- "Grill It! with Bobby Flay" Ina Garten -- "Barefoot Contessa" Bonnie Hunt -- "The Bonnie Hunt Show" Peter Ishkhans -- "Peter Perfect Emeril Lagasse -- "Essence of Emeril" Nigella Lawson -- "Nigella Express" Christopher Lowell -- "The Christopher Lowell Show" Phil McGraw -- "Dr. Phil" Ming Tsai -- "Simply Ming" Kevin O'Connor -- "This Old House" Rosie O'Donnell -- "The Rosie O'Donnell Show" Suze Orman -- "The Suze Orman Show" Donny Osmond, Marie Osmond -- "Donny & Marie" Regis Philbin, Kelly Ripa -- "Live with Regis and Kelly" Rachael Ray -- "Rachael Ray" Rachael Ray -- "30 Minute Meals" Lisa Rinna, Ty Treadway -- "Soap Talk" Martha Stewart -- "Martha" Martha Stewart -- "Martha Stewart Living" Steve Thomas -- "This Old House" Bob Vila -- "Home Again with Bob Vila" Montel Williams -- "The Montel Williams Show" Oprah Winfrey -- "The Oprah Winfrey Show"
_________________________________ GAME SHOW OF THE DECADE
Cash Cab Hollywood Squares Jeopardy! The Price is Right Pyramid Wheel of Fortune Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (ABC) Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (Syndicated) Win Ben Stein's Money
_________________________________ GAME SHOW HOST OF THE DECADE
Ben Bailey -- "Cash Cab" Bob Barker -- "The Price is Right" Tom Bergeron -- "Hollywood Squares" Howie Mandel -- "Deal or No Deal" Donny Osmond -- "Pyramid" Regis Philbin -- "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" (ABC) Pat Sajak -- "Wheel of Fortune" Ben Stein, Sal Iacono, Nancy Pimental, Jimmy Kimmel -- "Win Ben Stein's Money" Alex Trebek -- "Jeopardy!" Meredith Vieira -- "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" (Syndicated)
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"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
I think we should definetly use pre-nominees, nominees for both the emmys and the goldies to come up with a list. I also think we should have some sort of period were posters suggest people they think did good work this decade.
As for category placement, i think the best thing to do is this--- if someone was nominated in both Younger and Supporting they should be considered for whichever year resulted in them winning, if they have never won, they should be placed in whichever category their most recent nomination was in.
For example, Cady McClain has won in both younger and supporting (1990, Juvinile Female performer and 2004 supporting actress) so she would be considered in our awards as a Supporting performer since that is her most recent nomination.
does that make sense to everyone?
I think it's the only fair way to do it.
I also think anybody that's considered a legacy like Susan Lucci, Jeanne Cooper, etc should be automatically considered for a lead category because despite some periodic lapse of storyline they have most usually been lead characters on their shows.
Does this work for everyone?
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and i can't recall what year the soap opera digest awards ended but maybe we should consider those nominees too, they may not always be our favorites but they could provide information as to who did what in what years... i know that IMDB has a list of those awards here:
Cady McClain would definitely be considered supporting or lead rather than younger, because she was never a younger actor in the 2000s. I'm speaking strictly of the actors who were both younger and older during the period from 2000 to 2009.
Thanks Boidiva for the idea about using the Dankies and the Soap Digest Awards. I definitely will. And also Nelson's Soap Opera Spirit Awards, though they only go back a couple of years.
"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
This is a great and greatly challenging idea, 742. The suggestions for where to get names have been good. Might I also suggest we use the top five or so most cited actors per category from the Emmy performances thread for the years we have that? Too many names could result in chaos, but since the Daytime Emmys are such a poor base from which to start, I think it's kind of necessary.
Regarding category placements: how tough! For lead versus supporting, I would tend to go with whichever category into which they were most frequently placed? I do agree with Boidiva that legacies like Susan Lucci, Jeanne Cooper, Erika Slezak, Tony Geary, etc. should automatically be in the lead categories, though I guess since that's where they always place themselves, that's where my system would place them anyway.
I would suggest we not do a guest acting category, but that guest actor nominees be included if they were ever a regular on a show during the decade, like Renee Jones or Phil Carey.
For younger categories, I don't think there's really any fair way to judge it. I think if a performer was considered younger for more than half their time on a show during this decade, they should be considered younger, unless their inclusion on the list only stems from work they did after they were too old to compete in younger. Eden Riegel and Van Hansis,for example, I would definitely place in the younger category. Michael Graziadei I would put in supporting.
There will definitely be a category for best storyline. How to work that out might be a little tougher. If I establish an open vote, I might get some people citing big storylines (i.e. OLTL's Spencer Truman saga), while other people cite sub-storylines within the larger arc (i.e. Lindsay kills Spencer). As I make my list of eligible actors, I might consider some of the specific storylines they were nominated for or were involved in and create a master list from that. For instance, Kathy Brier won a Goldie Award and was nominated the previous year in large part for the storyline where she goes on the run with Tommy and holds Viki hostage. I would then add that storyline to the list. Another issue to sort out as time goes by.
To answer your other question, YoungRestlessOne, it would indeed be a Best Show of the Decade award. That's tough, for sure, because even the best soaps in the last ten years have had deep lows to match their highs (Y&R's roller coaster of Jack Smith to Lynn Marie Latham to Maria Bell; ATWT's great five years under Hogan Sheffer, and then an increasingly abysmal five years under Jean Passanante). But I don't think it'll be too difficult to consider what shows have the best ratio of good to bad, and which shows' highs were the highest.
I will also include a head-writer of the decade award, which will consider each head writer's achievements separately and not lumped in with his or her show. For instance, Jack Smith could be nominated against Maria Arena Bell, and not lumped together as writers for Y&R.
"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
I am really all for it, because this will probably be the ONLY time we'll be able to do this, because let's face it, will there be any soap operas on the air 10 years from now?
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I've just started cobbling a masterlist from the Soap Opera Digest Awards (dug up everything, including Best Villain and the like) and the Daytime Emmy nominees and prenominees. It's going to need some work and discussion. Some people who have vacillated between lead and supporting, some people who were younger actors but did a lot of their best work at 26 and older -- I've made tentative judgment calls.
Anyway, I've been going over the lists and discovered something shocking: Y&R's Jess Walton has never been pre-nominated for an Emmy by her cast! Wow! Even unpopular actors like Eric Braeden and Trevor St. John have been pre-nominated at least once.
"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
I think we should do something like a yay or nay for the category placements based on storyline.
Let's take for example Crystal Chappell. She won supporting Actress in 02, but since then she has b/c one of the Leading ladies of GL. The same can be kinda reverse for Gina Tognoni. There's time she was a Lead (she was nominated for our awards for Lead Actress for the storyline that got her second Emmy in the Supporting category).
I guess I am rambling now, but my pt. is that we should take their storyline into consideration and then go from there.
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Y&R has had so many strong actresses that it's not that surprising that Jess Walton hasn't gotten prenommed, though I'd think that in, what, six years, she would have made it in at least once.
Jess Walton has been nominated for 3 Goldie Awards in six years. So whatever her costars were thinking, we at GoldDerby thought she was worthy of making the cut. Very, very strange when you consider some of the actors that make the cut that Jess Walton has not been nominated or pre-nominated for an Emmy this decade, and hasn't even been up for a Soap Opera Digest Award. Yet Vail Bloom and Tammin Sursok are Emmy nominees and Amelia Heinle and Darcy Rose Byrnes have been pre-nominated. Go figure.
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"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
I've populated tentative lists for the acting races, and they seem more or less comprehensive, though for the sake of fairness I think we should add some actors who came to prominence in 2009, since they weren't present in previous award races. People like Y&R's Stacy Haiduk, OLTL's Scott Evans and Brett Claywell, GH's Drew Garrett, etc.
As for category placement, I'm going to use my best judgment. For the record, my criterion for being a lead actor is not that he or she was front-and-center for the entire decade, or even most of the decade. If an actor was prominent enough to be considered a lead actor at by the Daytime Emmys, Emmy pre-nominations, and/or the Goldie Awards, I put them in the lead race. For instance, OLTL's Susan Haskell won an Emmy and Goldie Award this year as a lead actress on OLTL, so even though she wasn't on the show for most of the decade, she's going in lead. If I don't do it this way, the supporting categories will be full beyond reason, and the only people left to nominate for lead will be people like Alicia Minshew and Maurice Benard, and I don't think anybody wants that.
There will be room for discussion (actors like DAYS's Renee Jones have gotten nominations and pre-nominations everywhere from lead to guest this decade, so she's sort of up in the air), but ultimately I'll be making a lot of executive decisions, or else the process of just discussing the finalists will take months, and I want to get this off the ground by October.
The Head Writer of the Decade category is giving me some concern. I've populated a list of all head-writers from the decade, but there's a problem of overlap. Some writers share the reins with another writer then go solo (Jean Passanante, who co-wrote ATWT with Hogan Sheffer and no goes it alone). And some head writers have tenures of mere months, which I think should disqualify them from consideration. That's the category where I will welcome the most input. Should we vote for the period (i.e. make Passanante separately eligible for her solo tenure and for her work with Sheffer), or try to single out each writer's contributions (i.e. consider Passanante and Sheffer separately despite their collaborations)? I think the first option will be simpler.
I still need to populate lists for game shows and talk shows. Those should be fairly simple.
Finally, I'm ruling MTV's "Spyder Games" and SoapNet's "GH: Night Shift" eligible for drama series consideration.
My sources for finalists were the Daytime Emmy nominations and pre-nominations from 2001-present (the 2001 awards covered 2000, our first eligibility year), the Goldie Award nominations and pre-nominations from 2004-present, the Soap Opera Spirit Awards from 2008-present, and whatever Soap Opera Digest nominations I could compile from IMDb since 2001. If anyone has any other suggestions for places from which to add finalists, let me know.
I'll post the tentative list of acting finalists soon.
"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
Wow 742, i had all but forgotten about this. It seems you are doing a fantastic job and i applaud you for once again taking this big task all on your self!
Praying The Daytime Emmys air on TV in 2010!
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Here's the first tentative category of acting finalists. This will give you an idea of how the categories will look. Any comments, omissions, suggestions?
LEAD ACTOR
AMC
David Canary (Adam Chandler/Stuart Chandler) Vincent Irizarry (David Hayward) Thorsten Kaye (Zach Slater) Michael E. Knight (Tad Martin) Cameron Mathison (Ryan Lavery) Jack Scalia (Chris Stamp) Walt Willey (Jackson Montgomery) Darnell Williams (Jesse Hubbard)
ATWT
Hunt Block (Craig Montgomery) Scott Bryce (Craig Montgomery) Tom Eplin (Jake McKinnon) Jon Hensley (Holden Snyder) Roger Howarth (Paul Ryan) Grayson McCouch (Dusty Donovan) Michael Park (Jack Snyder)
B&B
Joseph Mascolo (Massimo Marone) John McCook (Eric Forrester) Ronn Moss (Ridge Forrester) Jack Wagner (Nick Marone)
DAYS
Matthew Ashford (Jack Deveraux) Drake Hogestyn (John Black) Stephen Nichols (Patch Johnson) Thaao Penghlis (Tony DiMera/Andre DiMera) Peter Reckell (Bo Brady) James Scott (EJ DiMera) Josh Taylor (Roman Brady)
GH
Maurice Benard (Sonny Corinthos) Steve Burton (Jason Morgan) Anthony Geary (Luke Spencer)
GH:NS
Tristan Rogers (Robert Scorpio)
GL
Grant Aleksander (Philip Spaulding) Ricky Paull Goldin (Gus Aitoro) Robert Newman (Joshua Lewis) Ron Raines (Alan Spaulding)
OLTL
Kamar De Los Reyes (Antonio Vega) James DePaiva (Max Holden) Michael Easton (John McBain) Roger Howarth (Todd Manning) Trevor St. John (Todd Manning/Walker Flynn) Jerry verDorn (Clint Buchanan) Robert S. Woods (Bo Buchanan)
PASS
Galen Gering (Luis Lopez-Fitzgerald) Eric Martsolf (Ethan Winthrop) Ben Masters (Julian Crane) John Reilly (Alistair Crane)
PC
Michael Easton (Caleb Morley/Michael Morley) Brian Gaskill (Rafe Kovich) Thorsten Kaye (Ian Thornhart) Kin Shriner (Scott Baldwin)
Y&R
Peter Bergman (Jack Abbott) Eric Braeden (Victor Newman) Doug Davidson (Paul Williams) Christian LeBlanc (Michael Baldwin) Joshua Morrow (Nick Newman)
"A movie is not good because it arrives at conclusions you share, or bad because it does not. A movie is not about what it is about. It is about how it is about it: about the way it considers its subject matter, and about how its real subject may be quite different from the one it seems to provide." - Roger Ebert, from the introduction to "Awake in the Dark" (2006)
^^^Looking at that list (just off the bat), daytime seems to be lacking in charismatic lead actors IMHO.
I can safely say PASS, PC, GH, GH: NS, and B&B are out of it (although I really like Ben Masters, and David Bailey (RIP) was brilliant in the role for that short time).
On an aside and not trying to persuade, but lol, if a Thorsten Kaye performance were to be recognize I would rather it be for Ian on PC than his show eating Zach on AMC (which is thankfully coming to an end).
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