So, it looks like I was wrong in my guess that Tognoni might go to GH. Its for the best anyway. It'll be good to see her back on OLTL. I wonder if there is a chance Dan Gauthier will come back as Kevin? Actually, the prospect of Tongoni and Trevor St. John sharing scenes has great potential. Todd had a weird frenemy thing going on with Kelly when Heather Tom played her that I liked.

Now MTS is leaving? Unless she can afford to not work, I don't think this is a great move on her part. Like I said before, even with her Y&R paycut, I would guess its still more than she would get from any other soap, if she even gets another soap. In these times, some income is better than no income.

Tuc Watkins is coming back. I'm off that bandwagon.

Anthony Geary-Parsons???

My guess for the 7 year absent east cost returning star is Kelly Ripa. Its unlikely, but who knows? I could see her coming back for a short term gig.

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I know MAB is your new it girl, but the MTS comments were ridiculous. Quoting a bitter co-star??? Calling her a former hair model? MTS has been treated like s*h*i*t for years by the people at YR. She singlehandedly saved YR the last few years with her fantastic performances, and this is the reward she gets? It's sickening, and I'm surprised that you would encourage it. They want to save money? Here's a thought: get rid of all the characters who are not working. If they did that, they would not need to ask anyone to take a cut.

I thought Erin Torpey was dating Mark Derwin the actor that played "BEN" on OLTL..To me those pics look like something out of a catalog. I thought she was doin a modeling gig at first..And I am soo glad that Gina Tognoni, the orginial Kelly, is coming back to Landview!!

MTS is loaded. She doesn't need the money and I'm sure she can find work elsewhere, though hopefully better than Deidre Hall's guest hosting on Air America.

Oh, please — I love MTS (gave her a TVGC Award, and fought for her Emmy nom). But she WAS a former hair model, AND she's nuts to refuse a pay cut when the producers, writers, and net execs are all doing so. It's a new day. If she thinks she's exempt — she's nuts. MTS is not liked even by her current castmembers, so it doesn't matter who I quoted.

I just hope Melody Thomas Scott comes to her senses soon. Has she done this before though, and last time, didnt she even go as far as cleaning out her dressing room?

I'd like to see what Gina Tognoni could do with Kelly now- I think OLTL could benefit from having the character around.

I just listened to that interview that Michael Bruno gave on that radio show, and he mentioned the same blind item about someone returning to an east coast show after being away 6 or 7 years, and if the same blind item, he said its one of his clients and that its a female. I have no item who he represents though.

My guess on the daytime favorite returning is Robin Christopher- it's been at least 15 years since she was on AMC right?

I think MTS will re-sign, but it's too late — Nikki will leave the canvas in a surprising fashion, but they can write her back in easily.

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Oh, please — I love MTS (gave her a TVGC Award, and fought for her Emmy nom). But she WAS a former hair model, AND she's nuts to refuse a pay cut when the producers, writers, and net execs are all doing so. It's a new day. If she thinks she's exempt — she's nuts. MTS is not liked even by her current castmembers, so it doesn't matter who I quoted.

IF YR got rid of the driftwood, would they need the actors to take a pay cut? I don't think so. There are so MANY useless characters on YR right now. They could free up a lot of cash that way. If I felt this was just about economic times, I would not say anything, but I think it's more about knocking MTS down a peg or two. MTS has every right to feel that she deserves better treatment.

The hair model thing: you only used it as a dig, and an unnecessary one at that. You have not used "former hair model" to describe Stafford, Case, Cooper, or Walton even though the label would fit. That's why I have a problem with it.

I have a problem with quoting the former costar because it comes across as bitter, and anyone who watched YR during Ed Scott's tenure knows that MTS did not receive the great stories for most of his reign. If MTS were male, I doubt the animosity would be there.

Do you think Braeden will be treated the same way as MTS when it comes to contract negotiations?

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I know MAB is your new it girl, but the MTS comments were ridiculous. Quoting a bitter co-star??? Calling her a former hair model? MTS has been treated like s*h*i*t for years by the people at YR. She singlehandedly saved YR the last few years with her fantastic performances, and this is the reward she gets? It's sickening, and I'm surprised that you would encourage it. They want to save money? Here's a thought: get rid of all the characters who are not working. If they did that, they would not need to ask anyone to take a cut.

Exactly Crystal! Get rid of the dead weight, beginning with Amber and Michael! Y&R is like Soapdish! The real soap is behind the soap. It seems like Y&R has a penchant for treating their big name stars (MTS, Rowell) crappily. It's probably also an ego thing on MTS's part to reject the pay cut. At least she flat out repeatedly denied the cut, unlike Walton, who pretended not to know Y&R was getting pay cuts. Does she live in a fantasy land?

QUOTE "Geez — I’d rather have sex with Barbara Bloom than deal with this mess." QUOTE. Wow. B&B's found the "purrfect" way to redeem Nick by pitting him against superslut Owen. Nick objects to their relationship. Owen moves in with Jackie to keep his hold on her. Nick makes Jackie ponder choosing between Nick and Owen. The gold digging manskank proposes marriage to his meal ticket. Nick needs to crush that boywhore in boardshorts. And I LOVED how Nick grabbed Owen the whore by his collar and put him in his place!

Martha Byrne must think John Waters is funny if she thinks the crap she writes for Nick and Jackie is a laugh. Yeah, it's really funny for a son to catch his mother naked with a boytoy or for a mother to talk about her boytoy's sexual prowess with her son. ATWT quote is probably Van Hansis. Now that the hype has settled, he's probably bored by the material and zero media attention. He acts better in the quieter, mundane scenes. He's more natural as compared to his over the top, praise Jesus, Luke can walk material! LOL! Cady Mclain's return as fiesty Rosanna Cabot would be great only if Hoggie was writing it. He really morphed the character into a complex, condescending, stuck up but sympathetic bitch.

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New characters cost like 1, 000 an eppy; they need them to balance out the budget. Newbies cost nothing and you can work them a lot.

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The hair model thing: you only used it as a dig, and an unnecessary one at that. You have not used "former hair model" to describe Stafford, Case, Cooper, or Walton even though the label would fit. That's why I have a problem with it.

I have a problem with quoting the former costar because it comes across as bitter, and anyone who watched YR during Ed Scott's tenure knows that MTS did not receive the great stories for most of his reign. If MTS were male, I doubt the animosity would be there.

Crystal, you're really on a roll here. LOL! Is everyone castrated over there that they only make statements as an unnamed person? At least Rowell had balls. The delusional, egocentric acting group at Y&R act like they're in high school. Who can respect these people? Co-star spitting, tons of anonymous backbiting, such a mess! And yes, when Ed Scott manned Y&R, Nikki was not front and center at all times. They spread the wealth and it was supercouple central over there: Cricket/Paul, Nikki/Victor, Sharon/Nick, Dru/Neil, Ryan/Vikki, etc. It was never the Nikki show, so MTS should be given credit for not pulling rank or being Mrs. Executive Producer.

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Being a great performer should not exempt you from taking the paycut when everyone else is being asked to do the same. Now in saying that, I assume that everyone is being asked to do the same, across the board. If even one person (cough...Braeden...cough) isn't asked/made to take a cut, then I wouldn't blame MTS for leaving.

I understand the point about getting rid of the dead weight, but they obviously aren't going to do that when they can probably hire four lesser knowns with MTS's salary. That sucks, but its the nature of the business right now.

Hell, the fact they are even willing to negotiate with her is something. Deidre Hall wasn't even afforded that opportunity.

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New characters cost like 1, 000 an eppy; they need them to balance out the budget. Newbies cost nothing and you can work them a lot.

I'd get rid of Sharon, Amber, Daniel, Kevin, Eva M's character, and Jana for starters, and that's off the top of my head without looking at the cast list. As much as I enjoy Hendrickson, I don't understand why Chloe is on the show. These are tight economic times so whittle your cast down to the essential players. It would seem to me to be cheaper to play Bregman than some of those on contract for instance or is my math wrong on that one?

Hopefully MTS and co. will come to some kind of agreement.

The thing everyone loves to forget is that it is not just only Crystal Hunt making this Stacy storyline not work. It is also JPL, Farah Fath, & Scott Clifton and it is annoying that they don't get knocked as much as Hunt does. 3/4 actors I said aren't horrendous, but this storyline is falling flat and it takes more than one to tango.

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New characters cost like 1, 000 an eppy; they need them to balance out the budget. Newbies cost nothing and you can work them a lot.

I'd get rid of Sharon, Amber, Daniel, Kevin, Eva M's character, and Jana for starters, and that's off the top of my head without looking at the cast list. As much as I enjoy Hendrickson, I don't understand why Chloe is on the show. These are tight economic times so whittle your cast down to the essential players. It would seem to me to be cheaper to play Bregman than some of those on contract for instance or is my math wrong on that one?

If you whittle the cast down to the essentials, which ostensibly would be the veteran, higher-paid cast, then you have to work them more than usual, which means you're paying them more than usual. So, they would probably end up spending more money working MTS or Jeanne Cooper 4-5 days a week than they would working MTS and Cooper 2 days a week and then the others 2-3 days. That's how I understand it.

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A lot of good news and bad news. I think Nelson and Crystal are both right. The show should get rid of its dead weight, but the realities of the soap business are such that Thomas Scott should have accepted the pay cut. I'm sure even a reduced soap star's salary is a nice chunk of change. And from the actress's perspective, it's a little selfish to ask the show to fire several of her fellow veteran costars just to keep her on payroll at a higher rate. Getting rid of Sharon, Kevin, and Jana just so one actor doesn't have to take a paycut is unfair. (I wouldn't miss Daniel or Amber, though, and have been plenty sick of them since they were originally paired.)

Thrilled at the prospect of Gina Tognoni returning to OLTL. I'd suggest that her first storyline be accidentally (or not) running down Stacy Morasco on her way back into town, but that would mean we'd have to suffer through that character until the fall.

I might tune in to Martha Byrne's debut on GH, since "The Ellen DeGeneres Show," which airs opposite the show in my market, has gone on summer hiatus. But the claim that Port Charles will never be the same is infuriating, because Robert Guza's storytelling all but guarantees that everything will exactly the same as it always is. They could cast Dame Judi Dench on this show and she'd still end up pregnant with Sonny or Jason's child by the end of her first week, and then murdered by a serial killer or killed in a train wreck/plane crash/alien invasion by sweeps.

Good God! When will B&B learn? The constant pairing, breaking up, and repairing of couples we don't care about drives viewers to madness, and finally drives them away. Is there any fan of B&B who could possibly be excited about another Nick/Bridget wedding? I only started watching this show three or four years ago and already I feel like I'm watching the same storylines over and over and over again.

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Being a great performer should not exempt you from taking the paycut when everyone else is being asked to do the same. Now in saying that, I assume that everyone is being asked to do the same, across the board. If even one person (cough...Braeden...cough) isn't asked/made to take a cut, then I wouldn't blame MTS for leaving.

And that's my main point. I get the feeling that this is less about economics, and more about shoving the boot in. If everyone is being asked to take cuts (and the same type of cuts), that's one thing, but if history is any indicator, the cuts are not the same, and not everyone is being asked to accept the new contracts.

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I'd get rid of Sharon, Amber, Daniel, Kevin, Eva M's character, and Jana for starters, and that's off the top of my head without looking at the cast list. As much as I enjoy Hendrickson, I don't understand why Chloe is on the show. These are tight economic times so whittle your cast down to the essential players. It would seem to me to be cheaper to play Bregman than some of those on contract for instance or is my math wrong on that one?

Your math is right. It's not about workling newbies since they're cheaper. It's about keeping your main draws and getting rid of the airtime fillers and the characters no one cares about. That's why Zimmer refused the paycut at GL. And that's what supreme overlord of the hacks Brad Bell did to hire Eileen Davidson. He axed Dax Shepperd and put Will Devry on recurring so he could afford Eileen because Ashley's a signature character of Y&R. So is Nikki.

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I have been saying for years on this site that Y&R needs to get rid of the dead weight and "fluffers."

Ana, Tyra, Devon, JT, Amber, Daniel, Kevin, Jana, Eden and (gasp!) Cane...who i grew to despise months ago.

The money that would free up could be used to not make the rich already richer (Scott, Braeden, Bergman, etc) but to lure great actors back who have history with this show. Ex: Nina, Christine, Diane Jenkins, Tracy, etc.

As for MTS, i had a feeling she was getting "special treatment" while hubby Ed was on the show, just as Lauralee Bell was when Daddy Bill was running the show, so of course this would **** off their coworkers. And those who wanted to keep their jobs had to bite their tongues while this crap was all going down.

But the difference between MTS and LB is that Nikki was a more popular character, one half of one of daytime's most popular couples...and let's face it, a better actress.

However, Scott needs to get over it. Mark my words, if she had been pre-nommed this year and actually got a nod, we would not be having this conversation. She would have signed her new contract with a smile on her face.

So again, here we are....another casualty because of Emmy's ****ed up voting system and all the pettiness that is still going on behind the scenes.

Y&R, to me, is like going to a gay bar....It's a good time and damn entertaining, but the real juicy **** is what's happening in the backroom. LOL

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