In December of this year, Kate Winslet's two films will literally hit us back-to-back, with The Reader on the 12th, and Revolutionary Road on the 26th. It makes one wonder, will this be an overload of Winslet, or a 1-2 punch? If the latter were to be true, then we very well may have a double nom on our hands.

Last year, Cate Blanchett held such a spot (undeservingly so, I believe, what with Elizabeth: The Golden Age being the stinker that it was). Now it could be Winslet's turn. But of course, there are several assumptions made along with this prediction.

For example, one would have to assume that Winslet is lead in one, and supporting in the other. After all, Academy rules state that no one performer may be nominated in the same category twice in the same year. So unless Winslet is pushed as Supporting in Reader, this speculation holds no weight.

Also being made is the assumption that either one of these performances are worth the film they are printed on. Judging from Winslet's past work, there shouldn't be an issue in terms of quality, but even Brando had his Mutiny of the Bounty. There's a first time for everything, and that includes bad performances.

What do you guys think? Could Winslet pull off a double nod? Would the voters allow her to be the first double winner, even if just for the sake of apologizing for the long wait?

Your thoughts...

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Originally posted by Dr. McPhearson:
What do you guys think? Could Winslet pull off a double nod? Would the voters allow her to be the first double winner, even if just for the sake of apologizing for the long wait?

Your thoughts...

I think she could pull of the double nomination like she almost did previously with Neverland and The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind if both projects actually do come out this year, which I don't think will happen now with The Reader since both Syndey Pollack and Anthony Mingella have recently passed away. There's also a chance that neither project lives up to expectations, and it turns out to be a rare mistep like The Life of David Gale which probably seemed good in theory with Kevin Spacey and Laura Linney both being in it. Or she gets snubbed like she did for Quills. Or both are considered leading roles or supporting, and she has to compete with herself.

Should none of those things happen though, I don't see why she wouldn't be double nommed since I think they love her more than they do Blanchett since it wasn't until The Aviator that the nominations started really piling up for her while Winslet has been pretty successful in getting at least nominated throughout her career. I don't think she'll win though, and I highly doubt that someone will ever win both categories in the same night for different movies because I think they do like to spread the wealth. If she is double nommed, I'm sure it would help her greatly to win in one category, but I think her winning or really anyone winning in both categories in one night will likely never happen.

if she does get the double nod, and assuming all that you said (supporting in the reader, lead in RR) and also assuming streep gets the nod for doubt, i'm pretty sure it'll be a jessica lange, tootsie-frances situation, where she gets the consolation prize in supporting while streep gets the big one. i just hope her performance is also deserving of an oscar, unlike lange's was for tootsie, especially considering she was against kim stanley and glenn close

I don't think she will get double nod. I predict Winslet will be nominated for "The Reader".

I'll say it before and I'll say it again - her role in "The Reader" is far more interesting than her role in "Revolutionary Road". Not to mention, both of them are roughly the same size and could BOTH go supporting. It's foolish to expect that RR will be campaigned in lead, and that Reader will be in supporting - it could totally be vice-versa.

Assuming The Reader will be released this year, and they push Winslet for supporting, and lead for RR, she will most likely (i think) be nominated in both lead and supporting. As for a win, we will see... I sure hope she gets at least one of the wins, I hope for lead actress, but for now, I think I will go with Amy Adams in Doubt for the leader in the supporting race... Early reviews are very good for her and she is also a wonderful actress that lights up the screen every time!

I think that Revolutionary Road is too anticipated a reteaming of Winslet and DiCaprio for them not to be slotted as leads. With Reader, however, the studios may try to focus more on Ralph Fiennes as the lead, and all others as supporting characters.

Here are two ways I would want the wins to pan out:

WINNING SHORTLIST #1
Leonardo DiCaprio, Revolutionary Road
Kate Winslet, Revolutionary Road
Robert Downey Jr., The Soloist
Amy Adams, Doubt

WINNING SHORTLIST #2
Frank Langella, Frost/Nixon
Meryl Streep, Doubt
Josh Brolin, Milk
Kate Winslet, The Reader

If Winslet is double nominated, I have no doubt that the Academy will give her something that night. As you see with my second list, even Streep winning Actress could feature Winslet winning in Supporting.

It is Winslet's turn to be double nominated..and i think she will be this time around.

As for Blanchett..once again..she deserved both of her nominations this year. She was the BEST in the cast in I'M Not There and her performance in Elizabeth The Golden Age was terrific..even if the movie faulted here and there.

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Originally posted by Blanchett/Winslet Fan:
It is Winslet's turn to be double nominated..and i think she will be this time around.

As for Blanchett..once again..she deserved both of her nominations this year. She was the BEST in the cast in I'M Not There and her performance in Elizabeth The Golden Age was terrific..even if the movie faulted here and there.

Something, and I can't put my finger on what, gives me the feeling that you're strangely biased towards Blanchett and Winslet. Nevertheless, I appreciate your input.

I dont think i am being biased. I am ahuge fan of these women...and they are both sensational and terrfic actresses. Very genuine and natural performers. I personally think Cate deserved all her nominations for Best Actress for The Golden Age. They were honoring her PERFORMANCE..not the movie. I think some people just need to grasp that.

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Originally posted by Blanchett/Winslet Fan:
I dont think i am being biased. I am ahuge fan of these women...and they are both sensational and terrfic actresses. Very genuine and natural performers. I personally think Cate deserved all her nominations for Best Actress for The Golden Age. They were honoring her PERFORMANCE..not the movie. I think some people just need to grasp that.

I grasp they were honoring her performance. I firmly think they were wrong to do it as I found her performance campy, phony and even ridiculous at times... and that is separate from the film that was ridiculous a lot of the time. Blanchett was very subtle in "Elizabeth" but not at all in its awful sequel.

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Originally posted by pacinofan:

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Originally posted by Blanchett/Winslet Fan:
I dont think i am being biased. I am ahuge fan of these women...and they are both sensational and terrfic actresses. Very genuine and natural performers. I personally think Cate deserved all her nominations for Best Actress for The Golden Age. They were honoring her PERFORMANCE..not the movie. I think some people just need to grasp that.

I grasp they were honoring her performance. I firmly think they were wrong to do it as I found her performance campy, phony and even ridiculous at times... and that is separate from the film that was ridiculous a lot of the time. Blanchett was very subtle in "Elizabeth" but not at all in its awful sequel.

BWF - I was joking about your bias; I'm wondering why the smilie didn't work in my last post.

But sorry, I'm going with Pacinofan on this one: they may not have been rewarding the film itself, but the Academy was still giving honorable mention to a not-so-great performance. And I'm sorry, but in a year with so many great performances (i.e. Amy Adams, Nikki Blonsky, Angelina Jolie, Helena Bonham Carter), there's no reason to reward a mediocre one.

As for this being Winslet's double-nom year, that's exactly how I see it, though I think you and I are in the minority thinking such.

I'm on the fence re Cate's performance in Golden Age.
I give her full credit for not seeming like she was stifling a gaffaw while she delivered some of those lines. And, she was thirty years older than she was in Elizabeth (right...) so she would have been much more imperious and vain. I liked her during her quieter moments, when she was reflecting on her aging; but I almost laughed during the Spanish Armada scenes. Actually, I preferred her performance in I'm Not There; her sublime line, "Everybody knows, I'm not a folk singer...".
I guess we'll see; both of these actors are among the best.

There have been enws that The Reader might be pushed next year. If she can't get double nods for Eteral Sunshine and Finding Neverland (which should have helped her since it's a BP nominee), then she won't get two nods next year.

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Originally posted by iskolar:
There have been enws that The Reader might be pushed next year. If she can't get double nods for Eteral Sunshine and Finding Neverland (which should have helped her since it's a BP nominee), then she won't get two nods next year.

What are you talking about? Just because she didn't manage to get a double nomination a few years ago doesn't mean she can't get it this year.

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Originally posted by bocaboy7:

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Originally posted by iskolar:
There have been enws that The Reader might be pushed next year. If she can't get double nods for Eteral Sunshine and Finding Neverland (which should have helped her since it's a BP nominee), then she won't get two nods next year.

What are you talking about? Just because she didn't manage to get a double nomination a few years ago doesn't mean she can't get it this year.

No kidding. It's like those punks who say that if Streep doesn't win an Oscar for Doubt, she never again will. Give me a break; no one here's even seen the performance yet. To make such a bold claim is extremely naive. Heck, at least Bocaboy and I have the sense to call our views "speculation."

Iskolar - I have heard a bit about the moving of Reader until 2009. Here's what I think will happen, and this is just me... If both movies come out this year, Winslet will be called lead in RR and supporting in Reader; if Reader is pushed to '09, then both will be considered Lead performances. Why, you ask? It's absurd, but I'll tell you: Even though studios aren't always big on helping one another out, they are all of them smart enough to play what they think is the best Oscar campaign, even if that means giving a performance a lower slot on the roster than deserved. For example, Paramount Vintage was smart in labelling Javier Bardem as Supporting last year, even though he arguably has the most screentime; with a year like 2007, I don't think he would have made it in Best Actor.

In short, it's all a sick politic game. Am I saying that Winslet's large role in Reader might be stuck in Supporting simply to appease the studio's Oscar-hungry greed? Yes I am.

You may now complain.

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Originally posted by iskolar:
There have been enws that The Reader might be pushed next year. If she can't get double nods for Eteral Sunshine and Finding Neverland (which should have helped her since it's a BP nominee), then she won't get two nods next year.

Being a double nominee does not mean u have to get ur nominations because the picture you are in is up for Best Picture. Like come on. What makes u think that all the time? There have been many years where a double nominee is in the running without being in a Best Picture nominee.

Wasn't "The Reader" originally announced as a starring vehicle for Nicole Kidman? If the role is so large, will they be able to convincingly campaign Kate Winslet in the supporting actress category? She is a widely known, highly acclaimed actress and her co-star isn't a member of the same sex (unlike other leads who have been nominated as supporting performers such as Ethan Hawke, Jamie Foxx, Jake Gyllenhaal, Cate Blanchett and Casey Affleck).

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Originally posted by Dr. McPhearson:

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Originally posted by bocaboy7:

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Originally posted by iskolar:
There have been enws that The Reader might be pushed next year. If she can't get double nods for Eteral Sunshine and Finding Neverland (which should have helped her since it's a BP nominee), then she won't get two nods next year.

What are you talking about? Just because she didn't manage to get a double nomination a few years ago doesn't mean she can't get it this year.

No kidding. It's like those punks who say that if Streep doesn't win an Oscar for Doubt, she never again will. Give me a break; no one here's even seen the performance yet. To make such a bold claim is extremely naive. Heck, at least Bocaboy and I have the sense to call our views "speculation."

Iskolar - I have heard a bit about the moving of Reader until 2009. Here's what I think will happen, and this is just me... If both movies come out this year, Winslet will be called lead in RR and supporting in Reader; if Reader is pushed to '09, then both will be considered Lead performances. Why, you ask? It's absurd, but I'll tell you: Even though studios aren't always big on helping one another out, they are all of them smart enough to play what they think is the best Oscar campaign, even if that means giving a performance a lower slot on the roster than deserved. For example, Paramount Vintage was smart in labelling Javier Bardem as Supporting last year, even though he arguably has the most screentime; with a year like 2007, I don't think he would have made it in Best Actor.

In short, it's all a sick politic game. Am I saying that Winslet's large role in Reader might be stuck in Supporting simply to appease the studio's Oscar-hungry greed? Yes I am.

You may now complain.

An awesome post Dr. McPhearson. I agree.

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Originally posted by Blanchett/Winslet Fan:

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Originally posted by iskolar:
There have been enws that The Reader might be pushed next year. If she can't get double nods for Eteral Sunshine and Finding Neverland (which should have helped her since it's a BP nominee), then she won't get two nods next year.

Being a double nominee does not mean u have to get ur nominations because the picture you are in is up for Best Picture. Like come on. What makes u think that all the time? There have been many years where a double nominee is in the running without being in a Best Picture nominee.

I don't think that's what Iskolar is getting at. I think he's referring to the fact that a double nod should have gone Winslet's way, as the BAFTAs that year foreshadowed. He simply mentioned Best Picture as something that many times factors into iffy nominees.