Hi guys. I just got done watching MULHOLLAND DRIVE for the umpteenth time, and it's still as magnificent as ever! Every single time i watch it, i pick up something new, and it's so interesting to read all the different theories about what really happened. But there's one particular theory i'm looking for, and i can't seem to find it anymore...
Does anyone remember HYPOTHERMIA? He used to be a moderator here, way before Goldderby was renamed as The Envelope. Anyhoo, Hypothermia posted a very long, detailed, and concise analysis of MD on these boards when the film was released. Till now, it's still one of the best and most sensible explanations i've come across. And now it's gone! I can't seem to find it anymore.
I know it's one hell of a long shot, but by any chance, was anyone able to save Hypo's analysis of MD? I'd greatly appreciate it!!
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I can't help you with your query (sorry) but wanted to add my 2¢ by opining Mulholland Dr. is one of the best movies ever made about Los Angeles (along with, in no particular order, Chinatown, Sunset Blvd., Singin' in the Rain, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Gods and Monsters, A Star is Born (1954 version), Sullivan's Travels, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, and The Big Sleep). City of dreams, city of nightmares...
I remember Hypo, but not his analysis. I have my own theories about MD, which changes a tad every time I watch it. You know who I'd ask? I'd ask Cederick. That's who I'd ask. jmho.
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Yes Hypothermia is the real deal. I dunno what happened to him. I remember he explained Mulholland Drive in detail, and I remember it being the best interpretation I've known. Can't remember the full details though. According to him, it was not about dreams or hallucinations, but about death and near-death experiences.
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Originally posted by A. DeWitt: I can't help you with your query (sorry) but wanted to add my 2¢ by opining Mulholland Dr. is one of the best movies ever made about Los Angeles (along with, in no particular order, Chinatown, Sunset Blvd., Singin' in the Rain, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Gods and Monsters, A Star is Born (1954 version), Sullivan's Travels, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, and The Big Sleep). City of dreams, city of nightmares...
"Chinatown" was so fvcking kick-ass! But you forgot "L.A. Confidential"! Hehe.
10 years later, and i'm still upset that the cheese-fest known as "Titanic" won Best Picture over this far more superior film. Russell Crowe should have, at the very least, gotten a Lead Actor nom. (I'm sure Mikead will agree with me.) Same for Spacey in the Supporting Actor category. Terrific film. Waaaay better than "Titanic".
But "Mulholland Drive" still stands as my favorite film about Los Angeles. Very haunting masterpiece.
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Originally posted by babypook: I remember Hypo, but not his analysis. I have my own theories about MD, which changes a tad every time I watch it. You know who I'd ask? I'd ask Cederick. That's who I'd ask. jmho.
Cool! Now all we have to is get Cederick to visit this thread and post his analysis. I'd love to read his work too.
Btw, where'd you "listen" to his analysis? Got a link or something? I'd greatly appreciate it!
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Originally posted by Streep Fan: Yes Hypothermia is the real deal. I dunno what happened to him. I remember he explained Mulholland Drive in detail, and I remember it being the best interpretation I've known. Can't remember the full details though. According to him, it was not about dreams or hallucinations, but about death and near-death experiences.
Yeah, Hypo was da bomb! Where the hell did that catty bitch disappear to anyway? I remember reading his interpretation of MD and being so into it. After i read it, i totally felt like that was the best and most accurate analysis i've ever read.
Too bad that i don't remember the full details either. But yeah, i remember him mentioning something about the afterlife and other stuff.
Thankfully, Mulholland-Drive.net has a gazillion theories that we can explore too.
Originally posted by A. DeWitt: I can't help you with your query (sorry) but wanted to add my 2¢ by opining Mulholland Dr. is one of the best movies ever made about Los Angeles (along with, in no particular order, Chinatown, Sunset Blvd., Singin' in the Rain, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Gods and Monsters, A Star is Born (1954 version), Sullivan's Travels, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, and The Big Sleep). City of dreams, city of nightmares...
"Chinatown" was so fvcking kick-ass! But you forgot "L.A. Confidential"! Hehe.
10 years later, and i'm still upset that the cheese-fest known as "Titanic" won Best Picture over this far more superior film. Russell Crowe should have, at the very least, gotten a Lead Actor nom. (I'm sure Mikead will agree with me.) Same for Spacey in the Supporting Actor category. Terrific film. Waaaay better than "Titanic".
But "Mulholland Drive" still stands as my favorite film about Los Angeles. Very haunting masterpiece.
I deliberately left L.A. Confidential off my list, perhaps unfairly. I did not care for it at all the first (and only) time I saw it; something about its stylization seemed inauthentic. I understand it will soon be re-released on Blu-ray which will be the perfect opportunity for a re-evaluation.
Mulholland Drive is one of those movies that, no matter what you have going on, you can come into the middle of of and just get lost in. It is near impossible to take your eyes off it.
I've heard my share of theories about the film. Personally, I take it to mean two things. One, that Diane was dreaming, mainly about her life before it took a dramatic unsprialing. And two, how Hollywood is the Land of Dreams only to eat up and then spit out its actresses. Sorry. I'm having troubling concentrating. That sounded better in my head.
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Originally posted by A. DeWitt: I can't help you with your query (sorry) but wanted to add my 2¢ by opining Mulholland Dr. is one of the best movies ever made about Los Angeles (along with, in no particular order, Chinatown, Sunset Blvd., Singin' in the Rain, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Gods and Monsters, A Star is Born (1954 version), Sullivan's Travels, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, and The Big Sleep). City of dreams, city of nightmares...
While all of these are excellent, I think it's a double bill of Rebel Without a Cause and Boyz N the Hood for the cinematic experience that captures Los Angeles.
Each film of troubled youth in its time period does a good job of capturing the enormous amount of time spent in LA of just traveling the streets to get somewhere. The directors explore the city's changing neighborhoods from eye level that creates an immediacy which greatly contributes to the tension of the stories.
Originally posted by Forsaken: OMG, I totally remember that explanation. It was more a 5-7 page thesis....but it was sooooo good. God, do I miss the golden days of Goldderby. lol.
LOL!!! True true! I think "THESIS" is a more appropriate term for what Hypo wrote. Man, that was good stuff.
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Originally posted by A. DeWitt: I understand it will soon be re-released on Blu-ray which will be the perfect opportunity for a re-evaluation.
Ah yes. Please do. Who knows? You might finally get to appreciate the film once you see it in Blu-Ray. Hehe.
Originally posted by A. DeWitt: I can't help you with your query (sorry) but wanted to add my 2¢ by opining Mulholland Dr. is one of the best movies ever made about Los Angeles (along with, in no particular order, Chinatown, Sunset Blvd., Singin' in the Rain, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Gods and Monsters, A Star is Born (1954 version), Sullivan's Travels, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, and The Big Sleep). City of dreams, city of nightmares...
"Chinatown" was so fvcking kick-ass! But you forgot "L.A. Confidential"! Hehe.
10 years later, and i'm still upset that the cheese-fest known as "Titanic" won Best Picture over this far more superior film. Russell Crowe should have, at the very least, gotten a Lead Actor nom. (I'm sure Mikead will agree with me.) Same for Spacey in the Supporting Actor category. Terrific film. Waaaay better than "Titanic".
But "Mulholland Drive" still stands as my favorite film about Los Angeles. Very haunting masterpiece.
I deliberately left L.A. Confidential off my list, perhaps unfairly. I did not care for it at all the first (and only) time I saw it; something about its stylization seemed inauthentic. I understand it will soon be re-released on Blu-ray which will be the perfect opportunity for a re-evaluation.
The screenplay was amazing, and I still find Guy Pearce's Exley, who did everything he was so convinced he would never do, was perfect. The ensemble cast was also amazing. And Russell Crowe, gave a believable performance which is still my favorite one by him. Plus, he was so damned sexy in this, imo. I believe that in another year, were it not up against the titanic Titanic, L.A. Confidential may have won BP. I didnt agree with either Good Will Hunting or As Good as it Gets getting BP noms that year. I thought The Sweet Hereafter, Wings of the Dove and Men in Black were all better films.
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Originally posted by A. DeWitt: I can't help you with your query (sorry) but wanted to add my 2¢ by opining Mulholland Dr. is one of the best movies ever made about Los Angeles (along with, in no particular order, Chinatown, Sunset Blvd., Singin' in the Rain, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Gods and Monsters, A Star is Born (1954 version), Sullivan's Travels, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, and The Big Sleep). City of dreams, city of nightmares...
"Chinatown" was so fvcking kick-ass! But you forgot "L.A. Confidential"! Hehe.
10 years later, and i'm still upset that the cheese-fest known as "Titanic" won Best Picture over this far more superior film. Russell Crowe should have, at the very least, gotten a Lead Actor nom. (I'm sure Mikead will agree with me.) Same for Spacey in the Supporting Actor category. Terrific film. Waaaay better than "Titanic".
But "Mulholland Drive" still stands as my favorite film about Los Angeles. Very haunting masterpiece.
I deliberately left L.A. Confidential off my list, perhaps unfairly. I did not care for it at all the first (and only) time I saw it; something about its stylization seemed inauthentic. I understand it will soon be re-released on Blu-ray which will be the perfect opportunity for a re-evaluation.
The screenplay was amazing, and I still find Guy Pearce's Exley, who did everything he was so convinced he would never do, was perfect. The ensemble cast was also amazing. And Russell Crowe, gave a believable performance which is still my favorite one by him. Plus, he was so damned sexy in this, imo. I believe that in another year, were it not up against the titanic Titanic, L.A. Confidential may have won BP. I didnt agree with either Good Will Hunting or As Good as it Gets getting BP noms that year. I thought The Sweet Hereafter, Wings of the Dove and Men in Black were all better films.
Guy Pearce was excellent in The Proposition (see my review in the What Film thread), in which his reserved performance, reminiscent of Clint Eastwood, builds to satisfying ending to the film. Many other fine performances in that film as well. Am I revealing too much if I admit my favorite Guy Pearce performance is from The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert?
Originally posted by A. DeWitt: I can't help you with your query (sorry) but wanted to add my 2¢ by opining Mulholland Dr. is one of the best movies ever made about Los Angeles (along with, in no particular order, Chinatown, Sunset Blvd., Singin' in the Rain, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Gods and Monsters, A Star is Born (1954 version), Sullivan's Travels, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, and The Big Sleep). City of dreams, city of nightmares...
"Chinatown" was so fvcking kick-ass! But you forgot "L.A. Confidential"! Hehe.
10 years later, and i'm still upset that the cheese-fest known as "Titanic" won Best Picture over this far more superior film. Russell Crowe should have, at the very least, gotten a Lead Actor nom. (I'm sure Mikead will agree with me.) Same for Spacey in the Supporting Actor category. Terrific film. Waaaay better than "Titanic".
But "Mulholland Drive" still stands as my favorite film about Los Angeles. Very haunting masterpiece.
I deliberately left L.A. Confidential off my list, perhaps unfairly. I did not care for it at all the first (and only) time I saw it; something about its stylization seemed inauthentic. I understand it will soon be re-released on Blu-ray which will be the perfect opportunity for a re-evaluation.
The screenplay was amazing, and I still find Guy Pearce's Exley, who did everything he was so convinced he would never do, was perfect. The ensemble cast was also amazing. And Russell Crowe, gave a believable performance which is still my favorite one by him. Plus, he was so damned sexy in this, imo. I believe that in another year, were it not up against the titanic Titanic, L.A. Confidential may have won BP. I didnt agree with either Good Will Hunting or As Good as it Gets getting BP noms that year. I thought The Sweet Hereafter, Wings of the Dove and Men in Black were all better films.
Guy Pearce was excellent in The Proposition (see my review in the What Film thread), in which his reserved performance, reminiscent of Clint Eastwood, builds to satisfying ending to the film. Many other fine performances in that film as well. Am I revealing too much if I admit my favorite Guy Pearce performance is from The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert?
Ok; I agree it had a karmic ending. But, The Proposition truly made me ill. I never want to watch it again, ever. I'm not saying it was a bad film. Indeed, it had amazing cinematography, terrific performances, perfect sound and creative violence. I loved Priscilla and thoroughly enjoyed watching Terrence Stamp and Hugo Weaving; and it took me a while to even recognize Guy Pearce. But, I would watch Mullholland Drive over that, and esp Proposition anytime. That's the way you make 'atmosphere', promote discussion, and honour the film noire genre, imo. I havent viewed MD as being a dream. I see it more, as science-freaky. It makes sense while I watch it, but blurs considerably when looking back.
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