Originally posted by seanflynn: You've got the rough scenario reversed according to the reports.
So sexual tension was involved in some way? I'm not, but I just brought up the "guns" thing because of that being the reason Diesel was fired from Reindeer Games because he wanted more money and/or a bigger role if John Frankenheimer wanted to see his "Vin Diesel guns".
I can actually stand some stars being divas since all celebrities have some degree of narcissism in them, but the divas without talent are the ones that I can't stand and for me Diesel falls into that group.
Both these guys are decent actors - for Diesel, see Sidney Lumet's Find Me Guilty, for Walker, Flags of Our Fathers.
Nice that this seems like such a minor thing and not made a big deal, but this is the biggest opening ever and likely the biggest grossing film for an Asian-American director (Justin Lin) who came out of the indie world. He likely will have his choice of top-line projects from here on out.
Originally posted by seanflynn: Nice that this seems like such a minor thing and not made a big deal, but this is the biggest opening ever and likely the biggest grossing film for an Asian-American director (Justin Lin) who came out of the indie world. He likely will have his choice of top-line projects from here on out.
Like what? "Faster & Furiouser"? Wow, can't wait.
BTW, I wouldn't exactly characterize "Annapolis" and "The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift" as "indie" films.
Originally posted by seanflynn: Nor would I. I of course was referring to his first two films, Shopping for Fangs and Better Luck Tomorrow, which then led to his studio work.
And of course I was referring to the fact that Lin has already made studio films, and this is NOT his breakthrough.
It is a breakthrough, of course, to the first ranks of commercial directors considered for top-line productions, which is what I said in the first place.
Why do you insist on arguing just for the sake of arguing? If you want to be top poster for the month, which is clearly your raison d'etre for the moment, find some obscure thread somewhere and post where you don't make yourself look unintelligent and illiterate.
Originally posted by seanflynn: It is a breakthrough, of course, to the first ranks of commercial directors considered for top-line productions, which is what I said in the first place.
Why do you insist on arguing just for the sake of arguing? If you want to be top poster for the month, which is clearly your raison d'etre for the moment, find some obscure thread somewhere and post where you don't make yourself look unintelligent and illiterate.
The fact that "Fast & Furious" lured a lot of sub-literates to the movies is hardly cause for celebration except for the producers of this movie.
Originally posted by seanflynn: Once again, your argument obliterated, you have no defense, but you change the subject. The success of the film means that Lin now will be elevated to the level of Sam Raimi, Christopher Nolan and Bryan Singer when tentpole projects (many of which are quite good) are considered.
Have you seen Fast & Furious? A sub-literate person has more honor than you if you haven't yet feel you can call those who saw it negative names.
Raimi? Nolan? Singer? What have they done WORTHWHILE lately? (I know Nolan has his defenders, but I am not one of them.) So we now have a newer director to waste his talent on crap.
Furthermore, if you think I have no right to criticize this movie (or its audience) because I haven't seen it, you have no right to defend it, unless you saw it. But I daresay you wouldn't waste your time on it, either, so please come down off that soapbox.
Originally posted by seanflynn: Once again, you lie and make things up.
Please cite where I defended Fast & Furious.
I did see Lin's previous Fast & Furious entry, and thought it had its moments of invention and creativity, as well as entertainment. It certainly was a vastly better film than The Reader, although that's not much of an accomplishment.
Well, then, why waste your time on AMPAS and its Academy Awards, in which we find FIVE count 'em FIVE nominations including Best Picture for The Reader, but nary a nomination two years ago for Lin's previous entry in the franchise? I suggest from now on you may want to devote your attentions solely to Teen People's Teen Choice Awards, which honored F&F:TD with two nominations but, alas, no wins, the only awards show discerning enough to recognize its "invention and creativity."
Hannah Montana looks like a success, per Nikki Finke:
SMILEY MILEY! 'Hannah Montana' Opening With Huge $13M Friday: Could Be #1 Family Film Of All Time Over Easter Weekend FRIDAY 8:15 PM PT: East Coast exhibitors are starting to report their overall Friday numbers, and "it looks like the movie is doing fantastic," a studio source tells me. Disney had been expecting a Fri-Sat-Sun North American gross of $17M, and then $20+sM, for G-rated Hannah Montana, The Movie. But now rival studios say the Miley Cyrus starrer could end up iover $30M for the weekend. That would make this the #1 biggest Easter Weekend family film of all time, and possibly the #2 biggest Easter weekend ever. As one Disney source told me tonight, "Fingers crossed!" Hollywood had expected great numbers because of the rabid fanbase for the Disney Channel TV show and for Miley Cyrus. But Disney cautiously projected the pic to play like another Disney Channel small screen to big screen hit, The Lizzie McGuire Movie, which opened on a non-Easter weekend to $17M. As for the huge success of 2008's Hannah Montana & Miley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds Concert Tour flick, that was helped by Disney's hyping it as a week-only engagement, which created a frenzy among tweens who couldn't get tickets to see Cyrus live in concert. Disney now lays claim to the 3 top family film Easter Weekend openings of all time (#2 was 2003's Holes with $16.3M, and #3 was 2002's The Rookie $16M). If Hannah Montana, The Movie surges past $30.1M, it will be 2nd only to 2006's Scary Movie 4 (which debuted to $40.2M) as the biggest Easter Weekend film of all time. Of course, none of these numbers are adjusted for inflation or ticket prices. Keep refreshing for latest news... MORE
1 Hannah Montana: The Movie $34,000,000 2 Fast & Furious $28,783,000 (118,042,000) 3 Monsters vs. Aliens $22,617,000 (141,009,000) 4 Observe and Report $11,140,000 5 Knowing $6,670,000 (68,006,000) 6 I Love You, Man $6,412,000 (58,997,000) 7 The Haunting in Connecticut $5,710,000 (46,297,000) 8 Dragonball Evolution $4,650,000 9 Adventureland $3,433,000 (11,450,000) 10 Duplicity $2,997,000 (36,848,000) 11 Race to Witch Mountain $2,000,000 (62,056,000) 12 Sunshine Cleaning $1,804,000 (7,223,000) 13 Taken $1,125,000 (141,146,000) 14 12 Rounds $775,000 (10,740,000) 15 The Last House on the Left 558,000 31,701,000 16 Sin Nombre 324,000 798,000 17 Slumdog Millionaire 280,000 140,750,000 18 Madea Goes to Jail 210,000 90,300,000
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17 Again #1 as expected, perhaps not as big though as predicted. Big news is that State of Play will outperform expectations - if it has good WOM, it could do $13 million or more for the weekend, and as an adult film perhaps hold up better and with international success have a chance to break even - which would be a pleasant surprise.
(Nikke Finke projects 17 at $28 million, which sounds too high to me, and calls it pretty decent, State of Play at $14 and calls it mediocre - so her analysis differs some from mine).
1 17 AGAIN Warner Bros. 3,255 $9,465,000 $2,908 $9,465,000
2 STATE OF PLAY Universal 2,803 $4,570,000 $1,630 $4,570,000
3 HANNAH MONTANA THE MOVIE Buena Vista 3,118 $4,020,000 $1,289 $47,488,000
4 FAST AND FURIOUS Universal $3,840,000 $1,045 $128,271,000
5 MONSTERS VS. ALIENS Paramount (DreamWorks) 3,662 $3,575,000 $976 $153,398,000
6 CRANK: HIGH VOLTAGE Lionsgate 2,223 $2,650,000 $1,192 $2,650,000
7 OBSERVE AND REPORT Warner Bros. 2,727 $1,425,000
$523 $16,062,000
8 THE HAUNTING IN CONNECTICUT Lionsgate 2,255 $1,115,000 494 $49,883,000
9 KNOWING Summit Entertainment 2,405 $1,105,000 $459 $71,326,000
10 I LOVE YOU, MAN Paramount (DreamWorks) 2,202 $1,070,000 $486 $62,357,000
11 DRAGONBALL EVOLUTION Fox 2,181 $500,000 $229 $6,750,000
