News & Blogs Award Shows Facts & Dates Galleries Forums    
SEARCH:
Search Entire Site
The Envelope    The Envelope Forum    www.goldderbyforums.com  Hop To Forum Categories  Oscars    WIll Smith in Tom Cruise's roles
Page 1 2 
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
-star Rating Rate It!  Login/Join 
Posted
I was just watching three Tom Cruise movies and was just thinking about how Will Smith might have played the same parts differently--thoughts?

Collateral, Minority Report, and War of the Worlds
 
Posts: 712 | Registered: March 15, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Not always right, but no fool either
Posted Hide Post
I was just watching three Will Smith movies and was just thinking about how Tom Cruise might have played the same parts differently - thoughts?

Made in America, Bad Boys, Ali
 
Posts: 17512 | Registered: January 26, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by seanflynn:
I was just watching three Will Smith movies and was just thinking about how Tom Cruise might have played the same parts differently - thoughts?

Made in America, Bad Boys, Ali


I think Tom Cruise and Nia Long would have made a cute couple, but it would have pretty much sucked the wind out of the scandal of her parents' interracial romance.
 
Posts: 2515 | Registered: May 02, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Not always right, but no fool either
Posted Hide Post
Cruise would have been convincing in Ali yelling
I am the Greatest
 
Posts: 17512 | Registered: January 26, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by seanflynn:
Cruise would have been convincing in Ali yelling
I am the Greatest


Sean, that's so great!

You made a Funny! LOL!!
 
Posts: 5425 | Location: "Stay Classy San Diego!" | Registered: June 15, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Cirieously.
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by seanflynn:
Cruise would have been convincing in Ali yelling
I am the Greatest

While jumping on a couch?


_____________________
CIRIEOWNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posts: 3415 | Registered: December 16, 2001Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Watch your language!
Mad
Posted Hide Post
Now pay attention, class!

This is your brain.

This is your brain on drugs.

quote:
Originally posted by downchasboy:
I was just watching three Tom Cruise movies and was just thinking about how Will Smith might have played the same parts differently--thoughts?


And this is your brain after you watch three Tom Cruise movies in a row.

Let that be a warning to you, dears.



-------------------------------------------------------

The critics are raving!

"Good to see you back YET - you and Ethelcharles add something special to the site..."
seanflynn

"Your alluring feminine, yet oddly masculine countenance gives the younguns what they want - beauty, authority, and experience all in one. Oh, and what experience!"
ETHELCHARLES
 
Posts: 842 | Location: In class | Registered: August 14, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Your English teacher:
Now pay attention, class!

This is your brain.

This is your brain on drugs.

quote:
Originally posted by downchasboy:
I was just watching three Tom Cruise movies and was just thinking about how Will Smith might have played the same parts differently--thoughts?


And this is your brain after you watch three Tom Cruise movies in a row.

Let that be a warning to you, dears.


I am not advocating the use of illegal narcotics, but is there any other way a person could watch three Tom Cruise movies in a row, short of a lobotomy?
 
Posts: 6193 | Registered: July 05, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Not always right, but no fool either
Posted Hide Post
Risky Business, The Color of Money, Jerry Maguire, all good or better films, a good day's movie viewing.

And of course Top Gun is the gayest movie ever made.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: seanflynn,
 
Posts: 17512 | Registered: January 26, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by seanflynn:
Risky Business, The Color of Money, Jerry Maguire, all good or better films, a good day's movie viewing.

And of course Top Gun is the gayest movie ever made.


Meh.

Also, I don't think "gayest" should be used as a pejorative.

I can think of hundreds of feature films that are "gayer" than Top Gun—and in a good way.
 
Posts: 6193 | Registered: July 05, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Pucifer:
quote:
Originally posted by seanflynn:
Risky Business, The Color of Money, Jerry Maguire, all good or better films, a good day's movie viewing.

And of course Top Gun is the gayest movie ever made.


Meh.

Also, I don't think "gayest" should be used as a pejorative.

I can think of hundreds of feature films that are "gayer" than Top Gun—and in a good way.


I don't think he means "gayest" as a pejorative. He means it is literally. Think back to the volleyball game with the camera lingering over glistening male bodies. Or the various locker room scenes for more glistening bodies. Even the dialogue is full of lines about "covering people's tail" and so on. It may not be the gayest film ever... but it is up there.
 
Posts: 27161 | Location: Phoenix, AZ | Registered: February 02, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
I actually think that the gayest movies ever involve actual gay characters.
 
Posts: 2515 | Registered: May 02, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by MysteriousRent:
I actually think that the gayest movies ever involve actual gay characters.


If only life and the cinema were that clear and simple.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: pacinofan,
 
Posts: 27161 | Location: Phoenix, AZ | Registered: February 02, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Not always right, but no fool either
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by MysteriousRent:
I actually think that the gayest movies ever involve actual gay characters.


Well, Milk is better than Doubt or Mamma Mia to be sure.
 
Posts: 17512 | Registered: January 26, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
As for Tom Cruise's "gayest" movie (gee, I hope I don't get sued for even saying this), I would have to go with Interview with the Vampire, all that unrequited longing for Brad Pitt...
 
Posts: 6193 | Registered: July 05, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Not always right, but no fool either
Posted Hide Post
Top Gun is totally gay fetishistic -- the uniforms, the volleyball, the jet to jet midair fuel docking, Kelly McGinnis as butch as can be, the locker room scenes. It's totally about man on man love, "top" gun, ****pits, Giorgio Morodor songs - it doesn't get any gayer.
 
Posts: 17512 | Registered: January 26, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by seanflynn:
Top Gun is totally gay fetishistic -- the uniforms, the volleyball, the jet to jet midair fuel docking, Kelly McGinnis as butch as can be, the locker room scenes. It's totally about man on man love, "top" gun, ****pits, Giorgio Morodor songs - it doesn't get any gayer.


My ex loved this movie, which should give you some insight into why he's my ex...

I will admit, Top Gun's symbology is hard to ignore.
 
Posts: 6193 | Registered: July 05, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Not always right, but no fool either
Posted Hide Post
One of the two screenwriters (they were a long-time team) Jim Cash died in 2000, and there were strong rumors, though not confirmed, that he died of AIDS. (Not that everyone who dies of AIDs is gay or that gay screenwriters only write gay scripts).
 
Posts: 17512 | Registered: January 26, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
to answer the original question after the funny Top Gun posts...(it must be terribly annoying to create a thread and nobody answers it)

Smith clearly would've been an equally appropiate choice for War of the Worlds....the other two....no way.....I just read the EW review for Han**** on magazines I got late in the year, and it's true what they say, Smith will never play bad guy....so Collateral is out...he would've never pulled that one off....And Minority Report is not for his niche, which he clearly cares about far more than Cruise does and the role is not for him either...Not to defend the trainwreck that Cruise can be, but he's a much (MUCH) better actor than Smith, he never would've pulled off Collateral or Minority Report.......which along with Maguire are some of Cruise's best....
 
Posts: 5761 | Location: Maracaibo, Venezuela | Registered: January 01, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by seanflynn:
Risky Business, The Color of Money, Jerry Maguire, all good or better films, a good day's movie viewing.

And of course Top Gun is the gayest movie ever made.


Jerry Maguire is easily my favorite role of Cruise's, followed closely by his "tame the [women parts" sex therapist in Magnolia.


----
OSCAR FYC:
Best Picture - "Up"
Best Actor - Michael Stuhlbarg, "A Serious Man"
Best Actress - Saoirse Ronan, "Lovely Bones"
Best Supporting Actor - Christoph Waltz, "Basterds"
Best Original Screenplay - "Up"
 
Posts: 1924 | Location: Right behind you. | Registered: December 07, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
  Powered by Eve Community Page 1 2  
 

The Envelope    The Envelope Forum    www.goldderbyforums.com  Hop To Forum Categories  Oscars    WIll Smith in Tom Cruise's roles

© Los Angeles Times 2007

Gold Derby
The Dish Rag
Extended Play