Each year there seems to be a nominee who has either had multiple nominations, an iconic career, or who has been rarely recognized for his or her various roles. Sometimes the nominee that fits the aforementioned criteria wins the Oscar. Yet it is oftentimes hard to come to a consensus on who's Oscar would serve as a "career" award. So the question posed is, "who's Oscar for acting served as a lifetime achievement award?"
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Aside from, the 'honorary' ones? Personally, I dont actually believe any Oscars were for lifetime achievement; although, the body of work goes a long way. If/when Roger Deakins finally wins one, wouldnt it be because of his incredible work in the winning film, and not because of his consistent excellence? Who really knows what lurks behind the minds of the body of voters....it's pretty complicated.
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Jessica Tandy is one of the actors I had in mind. I thought she was splendid in "Driving Miss Daisy" and deserving of the award. But others view her win as a "career" award.
Ingrid Bergman had already won a few, but her supporting win was the definition of a "career win". How else could anyone see fit to rewarding THAT performance
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Yes; but, I still disagree. Did John Wayne win for True Grit because of his lifetime achievement in films? Or, would any of these performances stand on their own, irrespective of their past work?
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John Wayne's performances in Fort Apache, Red River, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, The Quiet Man, The Searchers, Rio Bravo are among the gretatest ever in the history of film acting. True Grit was a fun, knowing self-caricature, but without much of the emotional depth of his great performances. It was clearly a career win.
I'd take any of the above Wayne performances over all but a handful of the actual best actor winners in quality and merit for winning.
I disagree. To me there's nothing "clear" about it. Without diminishing ANY of his other works, his True Grit character was a CHARACTER that I loved. Same goes for most of these other examples.
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I was saying nothing bad about True Grit and his performance. Where do you get that? I'm just saying it was a different kind of performance, and for me, not nearly as great as he was in films he should have won for.
I think Newman's was definitely a career win, seeing as reviews for the film and the performance weren't actually that strong.
To be honest, I think Morgan Freeman's recent Supporting Actor win was a 'career win'. Alan Arkin's was definitely a 'career win'.
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As much as i love Kate Winslet i think hers ...might have been a "career award". As much as i love her they didn't want her to be tied with Thelma Ritter and Deborah Kerr, but i also think her win was a lock. i just loved the Reader.
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So....if an actor director or technician hangs around for long enough, keeps working, and finally wins, it's a lifetime achievement award? That's a crock.
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Someone mentioned Peggy Ashcroft above...she had won quite a few other awards that year...plus really wasn't a film legend (Not that Tandy was either...but Tandy was certainly more familiar.) Also Geraldine Page was a 7 time loser in 1984!!! Why lifetime Ashcroft & not Page???
I do think Winslet's win fits this thread. I really don't think she would have won if she had ever won before!
Peggy Ashcroft was not a prominent film actress, had not been nominated before, I don't think ever worked in Hollywood. She was a major stage actress, but people don't win career Oscars for that.
Page was quite good in Trip to Bountiful; yes it was in part a career award, but we aren't talking Pacino/Newman/Henry Fonda territory.
Originally posted by babypook: So....if an actor director or technician hangs around for long enough, keeps working, and finally wins, it's a lifetime achievement award? That's a crock.
Maybe "lifetime" is being thrown around too much...you can also call it "makeup" oscars in some cases. Like Winslet, Bette Davis in 1935, James Stewart in 1940, etc.
