Let's face it, it's our job, as fans, to remain loyal to our favorite artists, regardless of what they do.

But when does it become unacceptable to continue showing support?

Under what circumstances would you say "I'm sorry but I can't support you anymore"??

What would you be willing to forgive?

I think someone like MJB would have to steal a golden arches for me to say "I'm done."
In other words, she'd have to do something completely reprehensible, borderline demoralizing, for me to stop supporting her.
What, exactly, I dunno. I'm still thinking about it. lol

Others?

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Kill someone... say something prejudice or racist against a group of people... disrespect fans... etc. I have no idea, really.

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Kill someone... say something prejudice or racist against a group of people... disrespect fans... etc. I have no idea, really.

I think the bolded would **** me off, more than anything really.

Good answers lol

Domestic violence or violence of any kind. That seals the deal for me.

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Domestic violence or violence of any kind. That seals the deal for me.

Do you believe in second chances?

Or once it's done, it's done for good?

This is an interesting question. I honestly think the answer is that I'm not a fan of any artists who would do something so horrible that I would no longer support them. The reason I say this is because most of the artists who have allegedly done things that I find reprehensible (Chris Brown, R. Kelly, Kanye West) aren't artists that I love to begin with. I usually like their music IN SPITE of who they are and I find myself annoyed that I like a song by an artist who annoys me as a person or who has done something illegal or disappointing. I just don't think Madonna or any other artist I love would ever molest a child or vote for a Republican, so I don't think it's a realistic hypothetical. I just think I gravitate toward artists who share my values.

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Domestic violence or violence of any kind. That seals the deal for me.

Do you believe in second chances?

Or once it's done, it's done for good?

Good question. I think the latter.

For me, it's not that artists should serve as role models, because they really don't have to. However, and this is a very personal opinion, I expect them at least to inspire something positive.

For example: I can even forgive PAST addictions (e.g. Whitney), because at least they are showing somehow that they are able to overcome their own demons. But if you're still using drugs, how can you sing about being strong, being happy or fine and believing in yourself when you can't even apply it to yourself?

In the case of violence, they are hurting someone else, and in some cases, they hurt people they say they love and they even sing about how much they love them. That's something I just cannot accept. And I don't want my argument to become an excuse to bring up the whole Chris Brown/Rihanna fiasco and we all start fighting each other. That is so February.

The only the thing that would ever make me stop supporting an artist or their music was if they put out absolute sh*t for an album. Other then that I could care less. Artist's personal lives have no bearing on mine. They can do what they want, as long as the music is good I'll be supporting them. An example is the Chris Brown scenario. People really blew that **** out of proportion. Sure it was messed up that he hit her, but it happens. I'm not supporting it in anyway. But I think its absolutely retarded that people and even radio stations took a stance to stop supporting his music. Stupid.

I agree with mistersamgoody! If my favorite artist continually put out sucky ass music, I would be done with them. Their personal life has nothing to do with their music.

Personal, internal demons and personal biases are one thing. For instance, I don't agree with substantial drug abuse, but Whitney wasn't doing any overt harm to any one but herself by doing what she did. Either way, I don't even consider "drug abuse" that much of a crime as much as it is a medical/psychological condition. Also, if one is a racist or homophobic, I can certainly disagree with their opinions and views (Bob Marley was homophobic, for instance), but if artists keep their views as views and don't actively harm/interfere with others, then that's their business. For instance, it's one thing to be racist; it's another thing to campaign racism in their music or other forums. Depending on HOW much I like the artist or how extreme their views are will depend on if I choose to support them or not.

To me, actions that are unforgiveable are those that negatively affect/bring harm to others, and I have dropped artists I completely liked because of it. For example, I used to be a fan of R. Kelly; I'm not any more. I used to be a fan of Michael Jackson; I'm not any more (and I don't care about "speculation" or whatever other arguments people make to support him; I believe he's a pedophile). I used to be a fan of Chris Brown's; now, I can't even look at him without feeling disgusted.

This is possibly unpopular, but I frankly don't give a sh!t what drugs, crazy sex or other PERSONAL interests they pursue. I care about their music and (if the music is good) if that sound is as good - or hopefully better - live. I won't stop supporting someone because they go to rehab for awhile or something of that nature. They are human, after all.

It's probably partly to due with the fact that I'm in my mid 20s now, but I don't need a role model from music acts I support/like. It's not why I dig their music...

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To me, actions that are unforgiveable are those that negatively affect/bring harm to others, and I have dropped artists I completely liked because of it. For example, I used to be a fan of R. Kelly; I'm not any more. I used to be a fan of Michael Jackson; I'm not any more (and I don't care about "speculation" or whatever other arguments people make to support him; I believe he's a pedophile). I used to be a fan of Chris Brown's; now, I can't even look at him without feeling disgusted.

But you're a Kobe Bryant fan, right?

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To me, actions that are unforgiveable are those that negatively affect/bring harm to others, and I have dropped artists I completely liked because of it. For example, I used to be a fan of R. Kelly; I'm not any more. I used to be a fan of Michael Jackson; I'm not any more (and I don't care about "speculation" or whatever other arguments people make to support him; I believe he's a pedophile). I used to be a fan of Chris Brown's; now, I can't even look at him without feeling disgusted.

But you're a Kobe Bryant fan, right?

Not particularly.

I could never draw the line or be done with any of my favorite artist(s), regardless of how bad the music is or whatever is going on in his/her personal life.

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I could never draw the line or be done with any of my favorite artist(s), regardless of how bad the music is or whatever is going on in his/her personal life.

I agree, I love Whitney Houston and Amy Winehouse even though both have dealt with substance abuse.

I've always seperated personal lives from the music. As long as the personal life doesn't degrade the quality of the music, then it's all good.

When the quality of the music declines, then that's the only time I'll stop supporting an artist (see Scott, Jill & Arie, India).

I couldn't care less what goes on in their personal lives.

Amy Winehouse has dealt with substance abuse.

Since when?!?!