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Having said that, who can beat Leona for New Artist and Pop Female at this stage? It's been a crappy year for mainstream artists (aka the artists who actually have a chance at winning Grammys).


I wouldn't under-estimate Duffy. I think she'll be a huge Grammy nominee and Leona's competition.
 
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Having said that, who can beat Leona for New Artist and Pop Female at this stage? It's been a crappy year for mainstream artists (aka the artists who actually have a chance at winning Grammys).


I wouldn't under-estimate Duffy. I think she'll be a huge Grammy nominee and Leona's competition.


Duffy will also be another Best New Artist nominee but she is nowhere near the level of commercial success that Leona is experiencing. She also lacks the backing of Clive Davis which Leona has. Alicia was backed by Clive Davis, and she won Best New Artist. Carrie Underwood was back by Clive Davis, she won Best New Artist,etc. I'm not sure what other artists he's endorsed but he does carry a lot of weight in the industry. I'm sure he helped and pushed for Whitney to win all those Grammys as well.
 
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As we've seen in the past, big voiced divas (who aren't also songwriters, producers or musicians) are never overwhelming Grammy favorites in terms of wins. Hell, Whitney, Mariah, Celine and Christina, for instance, only have 21 Grammys between them. Yet Beyonce and Alicia Keys have 21 Grammys between the two of them.


Hmmm...well, I think this has more to do with the R&B categories usually being less competitive than the Pop ones.
 
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As we've seen in the past, big voiced divas (who aren't also songwriters, producers or musicians) are never overwhelming Grammy favorites in terms of wins. Hell, Whitney, Mariah, Celine and Christina, for instance, only have 21 Grammys between them. Yet Beyonce and Alicia Keys have 21 Grammys between the two of them.


Hmmm...well, I think this has more to do with the R&B categories usually being less competitive than the Pop ones.


Not necessarily my friend.

The year Alicia won her first five Grammys was a very competitive year in the R&B field. Not many people predicted Alicia would win R&B Album that year. R&B Album was considered a four-way race between Alicia, India.Arie, Mary J. Blige and Aaliyah.

The year Alicia won four Grammys she was considered a longshot for R&B Song due to the presence of "Yeah!," "Burn" and "My Boo."

I don't think anyone on this board predicted that Beyonce would win five Grammys in one night. I sure as hell didn't. I didn't think her and Luther would win R&B Duo/Group (Floetry's "Say Yes" was a pretty big hit that year) and I thought Luther would win R&B Song since his single was up for (and won) SOTY. Beyonce's other five wins were pretty spread out between her work with DC, her solo albums and random duets with veterans.

Nomination wise the pop field is always competitive, but the wins are usually pretty predictable. And keep in mind that Whitney and Mariah have often double dipped in both the pop and R&B field and each have won in both fields.

Anyway, back to Leona. This is a weak, weak year for music so I wonder how her tepid album will fare in Pop Album and AOTY. Can her album get nominated in one or both categories? Can she win ROTY for "Bleeding Love?" (I doubt it, but I'm just asking for the hell of it.)
 
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As we've seen in the past, big voiced divas (who aren't also songwriters, producers or musicians) are never overwhelming Grammy favorites in terms of wins. Hell, Whitney, Mariah, Celine and Christina, for instance, only have 21 Grammys between them. Yet Beyonce and Alicia Keys have 21 Grammys between the two of them.


Hmmm...well, I think this has more to do with the R&B categories usually being less competitive than the Pop ones.


Anyway, back to Leona. This is a weak, weak year for music so I wonder how her tepid album will fare in Pop Album and AOTY. Can her album get nominated in one or both categories? Can she win ROTY for "Bleeding Love?" (I doubt it, but I'm just asking for the hell of it.)


I can definitely see "Spirit" receiving a Pop Album nomination but not an Album of the Year nod.

"Bleeding Love" has to look like the only song locked in for a nomination in Record of the Year and excellent chances at a Song of the Year nod. "Bleeding Love" has to be the biggest song of 2008 so far. Does anyone else want to dispute that?
 
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when it comes to the grammys we already know that the biggest hit never wins, 'rehab' was barely a top ten song, 'here we go again' didn't even chart...'not ready to make nice' wasn't a hit by any means either....'boulevard of broken dreams' was a makeup award for not giving Green Day album of the year(but the only real hit to win this decade)....''low'' is the biggest hit of the year 10 weeks at number one with massive radio and downloads
 
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when it comes to the grammys we already know that the biggest hit never wins, 'rehab' was barely a top ten song, 'here we go again' didn't even chart...'not ready to make nice' wasn't a hit by any means either....'boulevard of broken dreams' was a makeup award for not giving Green Day album of the year(but the only real hit to win this decade)....''low'' is the biggest hit of the year 10 weeks at number one with massive radio and downloads


"Low" isn't a song the Grammys would nominate in the General categories. Maybe I should have been more clear, what other hit has been bigger than "Bleeding Love" that could be nominated for ROTY or SOTY? The way "Bleeding Love" was written and produced and tailor made for Leona has Grammy nominee song written all over it.

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when it comes to the grammys we already know that the biggest hit never wins, 'rehab' was barely a top ten song, 'here we go again' didn't even chart...'not ready to make nice' wasn't a hit by any means either....'boulevard of broken dreams' was a makeup award for not giving Green Day album of the year(but the only real hit to win this decade)....''low'' is the biggest hit of the year 10 weeks at number one with massive radio and downloads


It's undeniable that "Bleeding Love" has been a massive hit, but you have a very valid point, NARAS has rarely handed the award to a popular or the most popular song out of the five they have nominated(this decade), Leona stands a great chance of snagging that nomination for record of the year...but I hope they have better judgement and nominate either "Mercy" or "Warwick Avenue" and give it to Duffy ha ha...still I'll be glad for anything Leona gets...and I thought it was sad the Brits didn't show her some love after the massive sales she had by January '08!!!!
 
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"Bleeding Love" is a very good song. It's also a very popular song. Good, popular songs by talented people have great shots at ROTY nominations. I'd put her in my predictions for now.
 
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Doesn't anyone else agree with me that Clive will campaign vigorously for Leona? He carries big weight in this industry and past precedence shows he can influence the nominations and voting.
 
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I think Sarah Bareilles will get BNA.
 
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Why am I bored with her already??? Yes she has a voice a good one at that but .......

She will be nominated somewhere at the grammys thou and hopefully Duffy



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Why am I bored with her already??? Yes she has a voice a good one at that but .......

She will be nominated somewhere at the grammys thou and hopefully Duffy


as much as i love her talent,the problem is we already have a Mariah and a Whitney, it's not like she's bringing something new..that been said i like ''footprints in the sand'' much better than ''bleeding love''
 
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I know it won't happen but I'd love for Duffy to win Best New Artist. I find Leona Lewis to be overrated. I feel like she's been shoved down my throat. I hear more about how good she is from her promotional team, and less from what I hear myself. But she can sing though.
 
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I know it won't happen but I'd love for Duffy to win Best New Artist. I find Leona Lewis to be overrated. I feel like she's been shoved down my throat. I hear more about how good she is from her promotional team, and less from what I hear myself. But she can sing though.


i think Duffy will surprise people come grammy nominations morning, just because she doesn't have Clive Davis on her side doesn't mean NARAS will ignore her outstading talent as songwriter and vocalist!
 
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Why am I bored with her already??? Yes she has a voice a good one at that but .......

She will be nominated somewhere at the grammys thou and hopefully Duffy


as much as i love her talent,the problem is we already have a Mariah and a Whitney, it's not like she's bringing something new..that been said i like ''footprints in the sand'' much better than ''bleeding love''


Yes absolutely, no one should ever aspire to sing because we already have singers. stupid
 
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Why am I bored with her already??? Yes she has a voice a good one at that but .......

She will be nominated somewhere at the grammys thou and hopefully Duffy


as much as i love her talent,the problem is we already have a Mariah and a Whitney, it's not like she's bringing something new..that been said i like ''footprints in the sand'' much better than ''bleeding love''


Yes absolutely, no one should ever aspire to sing because we already have singers. stupid


Why even bother responding to something ignorant like that? lol
 
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Why am I bored with her already??? Yes she has a voice a good one at that but .......

She will be nominated somewhere at the grammys thou and hopefully Duffy


as much as i love her talent,the problem is we already have a Mariah and a Whitney, it's not like she's bringing something new..that been said i like ''footprints in the sand'' much better than ''bleeding love''


Yes absolutely, no one should ever aspire to sing because we already have singers. stupid


Why even bother responding to something ignorant like that? lol


you don't have to hun, if just your opinion counted the world would be a boring place, everybody has the right to think what they do..
 
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Why am I bored with her already??? Yes she has a voice a good one at that but .......

She will be nominated somewhere at the grammys thou and hopefully Duffy


as much as i love her talent,the problem is we already have a Mariah and a Whitney, it's not like she's bringing something new..that been said i like ''footprints in the sand'' much better than ''bleeding love''


Yes absolutely, no one should ever aspire to sing because we already have singers. stupid


Why even bother responding to something ignorant like that? lol


you don't have to hun, if just your opinion counted the world would be a boring place, everybody has the right to think what they do..


I just had to chime in on this because I found it absolutely ridiculous.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but yours is utter bull****. Your saying Leona isn't nothing big because we already have power vocalists like Mariah and Whitney. What kinda stupid reasoning is that? Are you that dumb? Honestly!!! Then why do we have Christina Aguilera? She idolized both Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston when she grew up. I guess there's no room for her because Mariah and Whitney just have better power vocals than her and there's no room for her music to make an impact. The same can be said about Leona Lewis as well??? Hmmm.. Dumbest logic I've ever read.

There's a place for Leona in this industry. If there wasn't she wouldn't have had a major hit with Bleeding Love and the public wouldn't have been receptive to her music. She's been in the Top 10 on the Billboard 200 since her albums release. Leona is hitting it big and there's no denying that. The fact is that the public welcomes much more ladies who have the power vocals that "MARIAH AND WHITNEY" possess.

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Why am I bored with her already??? Yes she has a voice a good one at that but .......

She will be nominated somewhere at the grammys thou and hopefully Duffy


as much as i love her talent,the problem is we already have a Mariah and a Whitney, it's not like she's bringing something new..that been said i like ''footprints in the sand'' much better than ''bleeding love''


Yes absolutely, no one should ever aspire to sing because we already have singers. stupid


Why even bother responding to something ignorant like that? lol


you don't have to hun, if just your opinion counted the world would be a boring place, everybody has the right to think what they do..


I just had to chime in on this because I found it absolutely ridiculous.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but yours is utter bull****. Your saying Leona isn't nothing big because we already have power vocalists like Mariah and Whitney. What kinda stupid reasoning is that? Are you that dumb? Honestly!!! Then why do we have Christina Aguilera? She idolized both Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston when she grew up. I guess there's no room for her because Mariah and Whitney just have better power vocals than her and there's no room for her music to make an impact. The same can be said about Leona Lewis as well??? Hmmm.. Dumbest logic I've ever read.

There's a place for Leona in this industry. If there wasn't she wouldn't have had a major hit with Bleeding Love and the public wouldn't have been receptive to her music. She's been in the Top 10 on the Billboard 200 since her albums release. Leona is hitting it big and there's no denying that. The fact is that the public welcomes much more ladies who have the power vocals that "MARIAH AND WHITNEY" possess.


if you had read my post correctly i never said there was no point in Leona being a singer, i just said that she is not doing anything new that Mariah or Whitney haven't done..that's a valid point, now being a christina fan myself, i'd say she has done more than enough to separate from mariah and whitney lirically and musically with her 2nd and 3rd album..again i'm not angry or upset or anything, in fact it's laughable the way you people go after a poster for writing their opinion..yikes!
 
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