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Originally posted by torontophenom:
I think its safe to say Kate's odds just skyrocketed to win her first Oscar be it in the Supporting or Lead Role category.

Winslet was already strongly in the Oscar race (to win) prior to the Globes.

I like Kate Winslet, but she was WAY too drama-queeny tonight.

It's an little statue and some praise. They didn't reward you for curing cancer.

A very good show last night. I missed the Golden Globes. Easily the most fun show to watch. I'm glad they are back. I haven't seen all of the films yet with winners from last night (The Reader, Happy Go Lucky, In Bruges), but they are on my list.

Slumdog Millionaire...wow. I am really suprised that this movie is cleaning up at all of the award shows. I thought it was a very good movie, but I have to be missing something because I just don't see how it is winning so much. I'm not hating though just suprised.

Tina Fey. a Goddess. Instantly made me a huge fan of her!

Congrats to Kate Winslet. I love reactions to winning like her's last night. She was the only thing I liked about RR so I am happy for her win there, and I hope to see The Reader soon.

I didn't think Rourke was winning, but I am thrilled that he did! His win was the only one I think I cheered outloud for last night. I am all for a Rourke OR a Penn win on Oscar night.

Anna Paquin

loved the show. my two favorite ladies in both media (winslet and fey) gave the show's best moments, and i am extremely happy for their well deserved double wins!!

all the winners were great. ledger, winslet, rourke and winslet is one of the strongest 4-line-up i've seen in a long time, and even though at least one of them will change come oscar time, i'm still happy it happened here.

and i also agree winslet's chances just skyrocketed. RR was very in the closet and really needed this boost, and talks of frontrunners in the respective categories were fluking to streep/hathaway and cruz. this really shakes things up, especially in lead actress.

there are three possible scenarios:

1- Winslet gets double nods, wins for The Reader and Streep wins in lead for Doubt
2- Winslet gets ONE nom in lead and definitely wins there, with Davis and Cruz duking it out in supporting
3- Winslet gets ONE nom in supporting, wins there and it's Streep's in lead

funny how I honestly think winslet is the deciding factor, and where and how she gets nominated really pretty much decides the other female category. suffice to say, she's winning one this year, and for whichever performance, it is well deserved

i do think hathaway's chances were REAAALLY diminished this night. i was so scared of a possible win which i was really expecting, but i loved the surprise for all the obvious reasons.

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Originally posted by VegasMovieMan:
Tonight's Awards mean nothing to Oscar nominations. The deadline for Oscar ballots is tomorrow and unless they hand deliever or carrier, almost all voters have turned in the goods.

There are only 80 voting members of the globes, so every little vote counts and there were not front runners for Best Actress so anything is possible. Trust me, Kate will win the Oscar for supporting for THE READER. She may, may get a nomination in lead for RR, but her chances are better with The Reader.

I agree that last night's awards mean nothing at least in terms of the Oscar nominations, and that it was very possible for Winslet to win both Globes last night due to a variety of factors, she had never won one before, the group is very small, and no clear frontrunner in Best Actress (Drama), and that she won't repeat that at the Oscars.

However, even within this thread there's a lot of confusion on where she'll ultimately win her Oscar this year. With the Best Actress race not really having a frontrunner (although right now I think Winslet is it), I believe that she'll win there like some other posters do because she's definitely more of a leading actress than supporting one, and that race is more open. However, she has won two major precursors in supporting, which also makes it seem like she has a good chance there, and this category confusion could actually end up hurting her since there's still not a clear cut place to award her unless the SAG's start to clear things up more.

Like arias, I do think that the best scenario for her is just to be nominated once, preferrably for The Reader in leading that way there won't be any possible category fraud, and because it's not like a role that she's already done like I feel Revolutionary Road is with Little Children.

I love Kate Winslet but what's up with that acceptance speech...both of them. I never understood how these celebs get up there and just ramble on and on. Here is the moment that they have been dreaming about all their lives...and I don't know its such a let down to hear what they have to say, reading from a piece of paper no less. The best thing she said was a wave to her kids "mummy won"...the same thing with Sally Hawkins which was almost painful to watch. Surely they can dig deep inside themselves and say soomething quick and meaningful without saying "omg this is heavy".

Though I wanted Streep to win Lead Actress, I am not at all bothered by Winslet's win (not as much as I would be if Hathaway would have won.)


I am wondering what the possibilities are of Winslet actually winning the Lead AND Supporting Oscar this year?? If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both? Just a thought.

Ideally, though, I still hope Streep wins Best Actress and Winslet takes Supporting. The actual nominations will shed some more light on the potential winners.

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If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both?

This is against Academy rules, so, I'm thinking no.

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Originally posted by Dot Dot Dot:

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If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both?

This is against Academy rules, so, I'm thinking no.

What, exactly, is against Academy rules?

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If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both?


This is against Academy rules, so, I'm thinking no.

Huh?? If she gets nominated for both Lead and Supporting, it is against Academy rules for her to win both?

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Originally posted by Frank Sinatra's Bow Tie:
I love Kate Winslet but what's up with that acceptance speech...both of them. I never understood how these celebs get up there and just ramble on and on. Here is the moment that they have been dreaming about all their lives...and I don't know its such a let down to hear what they have to say, reading from a piece of paper no less. The best thing she said was a wave to her kids "mummy won"...the same thing with Sally Hawkins which was almost painful to watch. Surely they can dig deep inside themselves and say soomething quick and meaningful without saying "omg this is heavy".

Yes, I thought Hawkins was one of the worst and didn't understand why they didn't cut her off. I can understand her being overwhelmed by winning, but the tone of her voice seemed so monotonous compared to the other winners, and she kept going on and on and on.

It's one of my pet peeves about the Oscars that they don't let most of the winners speak more, but in the case of someone like Sally Hawkins winning, I understand the need for time limits because she easily could have wrapped up her speech sooner.

Sasha Baron Cohen on the economy effecting Madonna and letting go of one of her personal assistants Guy Ritchie

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Originally posted by Frank Sinatra's Bow Tie:
Sasha Baron Cohen on the economy effecting Madonna and letting go of one of her personal assistants Guy Ritchie

I thought it was a funny joke, and not even that bad, but the crowd seemed to turn on him. Loved how he didn't care though--he just goes "Come on" when they groaned, and then went on. Cohen and Ricky Gervais were the best presenters of the night.

I loved Sally Hawkins's speech. It was endearing and clearly she was overwhelmed by the entire moment. She might never get this time again on such a widely viewed platform, so I was happy for her there, rambling and all.

The only Academy rule that comes to mind with the two nominations thing is that an actor can't be nominated twice in the same acting category for separate roles. If an actor is nominated twice in two separate categories, there's no rule to say that they can't win both times.

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Originally posted by zackfins:

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Originally posted by Frank Sinatra's Bow Tie:
Sasha Baron Cohen on the economy effecting Madonna and letting go of one of her personal assistants Guy Ritchie

I thought it was a funny joke, and not even that bad, but the crowd seemed to turn on him. Loved how he didn't care though--he just goes "Come on" when they groaned, and then went on. Cohen and Ricky Gervais were the best presenters of the night.

That made me so angry that the crowd didn't have a sense of humor about most of the things he said. Who would've thought they were so protective of Madonna and Guy Ritchie!!

And yes, Ricky Gervais would get my vote as the best presenter of the night.

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Originally posted by Dot Dot Dot:

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If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both?

This is against Academy rules, so, I'm thinking no.

Wasn't Jamie Foxx nominated for both a supporting actor and best actor a few years ago?

All I know is that I hope Mickey Rourke's win last night will lead into him winning the Oscar.

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Originally posted by perico:

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Originally posted by Dot Dot Dot:

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If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both?

This is against Academy rules, so, I'm thinking no.

Wasn't Jamie Foxx nominated for both a supporting actor and best actor a few years ago?

Yes, and it has happened more than a few times, including last year with Cate Blanchett.

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Wasn't Jamie Foxx nominated for both a supporting actor and best actor a few years ago?

As was Cate Blanchett last year......

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Originally posted by Dot Dot Dot:

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If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both?

This is against Academy rules, so, I'm thinking no.

You can't be nominated twice in the same acting category bu you can be nominated in lead and supporting and it has happened a number of times (Holly Hunter 1993, Cate Blanchett 2007, Emma Thompson 1993, Julianne Moore 2002, etc).