If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both?
This is against Academy rules, so, I'm thinking no.
You can't be nominated twice in the same acting category bu you can be nominated in lead and supporting and it has happened a number of times (Holly Hunter 1993, Cate Blanchett 2007, Emma Thompson 1993, Julianne Moore 2002, etc).
Bringing up Julianne Moore's double nomination just re-ignites my bitterness because she was better in The Hours than Zeta-Jones was Chicago and she was better in Far From Heaven than Kidman was in The Hours, yet she lost both categories.
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If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both?
This is against Academy rules, so, I'm thinking no.
You can't be nominated twice in the same acting category bu you can be nominated in lead and supporting and it has happened a number of times (Holly Hunter 1993, Cate Blanchett 2007, Emma Thompson 1993, Julianne Moore 2002, etc).
Bringing up Julianne Moore's double nomination just re-ignites my bitterness because she was better in The Hours than Zeta-Jones was Chicago and she was better in Far From Heaven than Kidman was in The Hours, yet she lost both categories.
She was my best actress choice that year for "Far From Heaven" by a mile.
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Originally posted by fignewton: I am just so sick of this Kate Winslet situation. I wish she just wins one or both and the fans will shut up forever.
Well i can say i'm no fan of hers, but i feel the pain her fans have been going through. She is a talented actress (though not one of my faves) and she has probrally deserved to win a few times (espeically for Titanic) so i hope for her sake and the sake of her fans that she can win an Oscar this year.
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Originally posted by Boidiva02: Also what the heck was with Colin Farrell winning? what is this movie he was in? was anybody even talking about it or him? is this one of thse times when Golden Globe is embracing a film that will go onto the Oscars or just another example of GG honoring a film that nobody else gives a crap about?
The film Colin Farrell won for was "In Bruges," which is an excellent film you should give a chance before judging. There were people here (like myself) who were predicting his win. This is likely as far as it goes, since it will be hard to place in original screenplay at the Oscars. It's great work, Colin's win is deserved, and it's nice to see the film recognized in this way.
I placed no judgement on the film, i simply asked if it was a good film or if it was yet another example of GG's notriously odd choices.
I personally like Colin Farrell, he seems like a nice man and he's a decent actor. i was just surprised that this film that very few people had heard of was all of a sudden winning a GG.
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If there truly is the overwhelming urge to reward her, as some on here suggest, could a scenario arise where voters who feel she is "overdue" and want to make sure she wins vote for her in both Lead and Supporting in an attempt to make sure she wins at least one, resulting in her winning both?
Acting branch members can, if they choose, mark Winslet for lead for Rev Rd, lead for The Reader, supporting for Reader. There is no rule against that, and I suspect some do when there is category confusion.
For the final balloting, of course there is no rule against voting for the same person for different performances in two different categories.
Here are the rules if she has sufficient votes for all three situations:
If she has enough votes to be nominated both for lead and supporting for The Reader, she would be placed in the category with the greater number of votes.
For lead, if she has sufficient votes for both, she'd be nominated for the role that had the greater votes.
If somehow she had more supporting votes for The Reader than lead, but more lead votes for The Reader than Rev Rd, I think she'd still have the supporting nomination for The Reader as I read the rules,and then also get the lead nomination for Rev Rd, but I am not 100% sure about this.
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Originally posted by Atypical: OMG, Tina Fey just called you clowns out to hundreds of millions of people around the world. That was insane. ...
I don't think I'm a clown at all.
You aren't. You're a Loser! And you'll always be a Loser. Believe me, you deserve all the bad Karma you've generated. Did your Mother ever behave like you did when you trashed someone you didn't even know? Five will getcha ten she did and she passed all that UGLY to you. And that goes for you too, Cougar-Letter and BabsonLacrosse! Move out of your patents basements and get a life and what's more learn to value life rather than trash it, because Death could be right around the corner and just seconds away from you. (That is not a threat.) And once you're dead you can't undo the wrongs you've done. Grow up! THINK!
I have to say I'm still surprised that the HFPA denied Meryl Streep twice in the same night. They have heaped so much love on her in the past, I thought for sure she would win once last night.
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- Finding out that Tina Fey reads these boards. As someone who has been posting here for the past 6 years, it was truly awesome to hear Tina call out some of her haters on here.
- Speaking of 30 Rock, Tracy Morgan should give every acceptance speech ever. He was hilarityville!
- Rickey Gervais proves once again that he should host every single awards show until the end of time. I almost passed out after he told Winslet that he told her that doing a Holocaust film will win you awards.
The Bad:
- True Blood, In Treatment, and Mad Men. Three shows whose appeal I will never understand. . .
The Ugly:
- Mickey Rourke. Seriously, he's like the male equivalent of Jocelyn Wildenstein.
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Originally posted by MissyGal: My thoughts on the show:
The Good:
- Finding out that Tina Fey reads these boards. As someone who has been posting here for the past 6 years, it was truly awesome to hear Tina call out some of her haters on here.
- Speaking of 30 Rock, Tracy Morgan should give every acceptance speech ever. He was hilarityville!
- Rickey Gervais proves once again that he should host every single awards show until the end of time. I almost passed out after he told Winslet that he told her that doing a Holocaust film will win you awards.
The Bad:
- True Blood, In Treatment, and Mad Men. Three shows whose appeal I will never understand. . .
The Ugly:
- Mickey Rourke. Seriously, he's like the male equivalent of Jocelyn Wildenstein.
i agree completley! well said...
and i agree i am not a fan of Mickey Rourke's win. this one deserved to go to Sean Penn.
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THE GOOD 1) Kate Winslet. Yeah, I know the speeches might've been a little over the top, but she was genuine. Yes, supporting for The Reader is category fraud, though.
2) Maggie Gyllenhaal handling questions about Heath Ledger on the red carpet.
3) Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt snubbing Ryan Seacrest on the red carpet.
4) Some setups for pretty open races for Actress and Supporting Actress at the Oscars.
THE MIXED TO BAD 1) I love Laura Linney, but sometimes she comes across as a little too smug.
2) Paul Giamatti is a great actor, too, but I thought he was atrocious in John Adams.
3) Colin Farrell should know that Florida vote-counting jokes are out. MINNESOTA vote-counting jokes are in.
4) Big Tina Fey fan, but she's the Jerry Seinfeld of her show. And Seinfeld didn't deserve any acting awards. Funny speech, though.
THE UGLY 1) David Duchovny and Alec Baldwin throwing in such transparent references to their families, when we know they don't have the best reputations in that department, of late.
2) Glenn Close. Looked like an angry refugee from Goldfinger all evening.
3) Renee Zellweger. Just sad.
4) Tracy Morgan. I'm sorry, but I don't find his schtick funny. Would it kill you to ever sound halfway intelligent?
5) The audience reaction to the brilliantly funny Sacha Baron Cohen.
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Originally posted by GelEGuy: 4) Tracy Morgan. I'm sorry, but I don't find his schtick funny. Would it kill you to ever sound halfway intelligent?
Couldn't agree more. Tracy Morgan has never been funny and he never will be. He is one of those people that I can never understand how they achieved anything because I can't find a single redeeming quality about him.
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Originally posted by zackfins: I have to say I'm still surprised that the HFPA denied Meryl Streep twice in the same night. They have heaped so much love on her in the past, I thought for sure she would win once last night.
And, um, have you seen Doubt and Mamma Mia?
I love Ms. Meryl, but let's just say: Not her best work.
I'll do one of the "Good, Bad, and the Ugly" things. Usually I do them right after the show, but didn't feel like doing one then.
THE GOOD:
-Happy for "Slumdog Millionaire" sweeping. When I first watched it, I really liked it but didn't get the hype. I then felt I should watch it again and then I "got" it. Even though I am happy for it though, I still wouldn't call it my favorite film. I love the top 6 (WALL-E being the 6th) BP contenders fairly equally and I will be happy with any of them winning.
-Tina Fey calling out The Envelope posters!!
-Kate Winslet winning TWICE!! Even though I haven't seen The Reader, no matter what, I really don't want her to win if it is going to be category fraud.
-Mickey Rourke's speech (especially the comment about his dogs, which was sweet). He is definitely worthy to win the Oscar, along with Penn and Langella.
-Ricky Gervais and Tracy Morgan (some of the things he said, not all) were both great!! I especially loved Ricky Gervais bringing up the "Holocaust film=awards" thing to Kate Winslet due to that wonderful episode of "Extras" that she did. If you haven't seen her guest spot on that show, DO SO!!
-Laura Dern winning was great if only for the fact that she finally got some recognition. She is a very underrated actress.
-Even though Sally Hawkins did ramble on a little too much, she seemed very humble and gracious, and I love to see the lesser-known actors triumph in cases like this.
-The snubbing of Ryan Seacrest by Brangelina. PRICELESS!!
-Heath Ledger winning and Christopher Nolan's speech.
-Lastly, Vicky Christina Barcelona beating Mamma Mia for Best Comedy/Musical!! _______________________________________________
THE BAD/MIXED:
-There wasn't anything that I thought was just bad or mixed, but I do agree that Drew Barrymore and Renee Zellweger looked a little less than stellar. _______________________________________________
THE UGLY:
-The Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus (actually a nominee!! UGH!) being able to attend.
-The crowd hissing Sacha Baron Cohen, which I found to be uncalled for. I am glad that he didn't care that they were snobs.
-America Ferrera being a nominee when (I'm sorry for bringing this up AGAIN but I haven't talked about it hardly at all lately) Marcia Cross is snubbed for the 2nd year in a row (not to mention her few snubs at the Emmys and not even getting a SAG nom but that's a different story). Ummmm.....yeah, whatever.
-I still think Steve Carell deserves more awards for his work as Michael Scott, but at least he has a Globe already. He still needs a SAG and an Emmy. (And I am not saying Alec Baldwin winning is bad, he is a worthy choice as well).
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Originally posted by Atypical: OMG, Tina Fey just called you clowns out to hundreds of millions of people around the world. That was insane. ...
I don't think I'm a clown at all.
You aren't. You're a Loser! And you'll always be a Loser. Believe me, you deserve all the bad Karma you've generated. Did your Mother ever behave like you did when you trashed someone you didn't even know? Five will getcha ten she did and she passed all that UGLY to you. And that goes for you too, Cougar-Letter and BabsonLacrosse! Move out of your patents basements and get a life and what's more learn to value life rather than trash it, because Death could be right around the corner and just seconds away from you. (That is not a threat.) And once you're dead you can't undo the wrongs you've done. Grow up! THINK!
WOW. A little too much. But next time I think she should call out My English Teacher, Mr. America, and so on. lol Kidding. Though Babson, cougar, and Dianfan are quite the haters and got what was handed to them. Suck it!!!! lol
Good: - Of course....Tina Fey's AMAZING speech. A Goddess indeed. Nuff' said. The Envelope forum is officially legendary.
- Slumdog winning BIG! I thought the film deserved all their wins at the Globes, but Oscars I want to see a split of sorts b/w Slumdog and The Dark Knight.
- Sasha Baran Cohen's speech was funny.
- Seeing SRK (Shahrukh Kahn) at the Globes was awesome.
- Mickey Rourke with his surprising win was great.
- Of course Kate Winslet winning not once, but twice. I think at the Oscars one win will be enough, but still, I loved her wins here.
The Meh:
- Renee Zellweger's overall look of the night. a MESS. Sorry.
The Ugly:
- John Adams winning everything, lol.
- No real host.
Overall a good night at the Globes, the good moments overweighted the bad ones, so that's a good thing. I loved how laid back everyone was as well. Of course the alcohol helped.
My thoughts: * Congratulations to Kate Winslet. I haven't seen either film but it's about time this woman won some awards. I do however feel this will not stop her from going 0 for 2 (and thus 0 for 7 overall) at the Oscars this year. I still think that Hathaway/Streep will win Best Actress and Cruz will take supporting. * I am very surprised that "Button" went home empty handed. If any award show was going to take a pause from rewarding "Slumdog" to give the big cast, baity epic its due, I expected it to be the Globes. This could be the first time in five years that the Globes actually gave the Oscar winner for Best Picture a Best Picture trophy. * Their TV awards continue to shower love on to new shows that probably won't last with "True Blood" and "In Treatment" winning this year. At least "30 Rock" and "Mad Men" were rewarded and were legit choices. * While Paul, Laura, and Tom's wins for "John Adams" were no surprise, I am ecstatic that Laura Dern's wonderful performance was rewarded. She was astounding.
Some thoughts on the ceremony itself: * My god the presenters list was full of a lot of irrelevant "stars." Look at all the superstars in attendance. Did Brad and Angie and Meryl and the rest of them really refuse to present? Were Rainn Wilson, Blake Lively, Sandra Bullock, Demi Moore, and Co. really the most relevant stars they could get to go up on stage? * Most of the clips they showed from the films were so useless. They were too brief as to be of any substance and showed random shots from the film. * Drew Barrymore's hair was ridiculous and not in the good way. And I usually defend her but Renee Zellweger looked a little scary.
They likely refused to present. Doing so it a pain in the ass, involves rehearsals the day before, and these are the GGs. The presenters are offered to the GGs by desperate B list or lower talent who want the attention, likely in tradeoff for other favors the non-journalists of this group will get in return.
Yeah, almost everyone who presented had some kind of upcoming film or big TV event to promote. This is a chance for the people who wouldn't be asked to present at the Oscars to give something away. If you're Angelina Jolie, you know you're going to get 500 reaction shots during the ceremony, anyways, so why bother going to rehearsals to give out an award that Alec Baldwin once referred to on "The Simpsons" as something he'd toss out?
As long as we're on presenters--Love how Eva Mendes and Salma Hayek are asked to introduce Latinos or movies set in Spanish-speaking countries. I can just picture the GG producers now: "Hmmm...So, we need someone to introduce Vicky Cristina Barcelona. This is where we fill one of our two 'spicy Latina actress' slots."
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